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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Amy - May 12, 2009 6:14:27 pm PDT #8139 of 30001
Because books.

I think that he just remembered. I started to suspect when Walter told the coin story and Peter didn't remember.

That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. WALTER.


Vortex - May 12, 2009 6:46:24 pm PDT #8140 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Walter may not even have known that he was alternate!Peter until the coin story.


sj - May 12, 2009 6:49:20 pm PDT #8141 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Walter mentioned the illness much earlier in the season, which is why I thought it was clone!Peter until tonight. I think he knows and forgets often.


Polter-Cow - May 12, 2009 8:26:33 pm PDT #8142 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm with sj. I think there are times when it's seemed like he's known, but this is not the first time Peter hasn't remembered something about his childhood. I'm so glad they went there! Oh, crazy show.

I also love that they totally explained why all the weird shit was happening around the Boston area! THANKS A LOT, MASSIVE DYNAMIC.

Also, William Bell is Spock. It all makes sense now.


Vortex - May 12, 2009 8:34:21 pm PDT #8143 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

For a second, I thought that we would find out that William Bell was alternate!Walter.


Typo Boy - May 12, 2009 8:56:52 pm PDT #8144 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But Peter was stolen from Alternate!Walter. So if Alternate!Walter is still alive, boy is he pissed at our Walter.

Only... Note that the tabloid headline is "Obamas move into White House". So the whole show has taken place in a Universe in which Obama is NOT President? The show's viewpoint reality is an alternate universe to whom WE are the weird other world? I'm probably reading too much into one headline.


-t - May 12, 2009 9:00:09 pm PDT #8145 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It was "Obamas Move Into New White House", implying something happened to the old one. Something to do with the fires and destruction Olivia was seeing in her deja vus, perhaps.

And they ended in the Twin Towers.

So Bell is not hanging out in our universe.


Polter-Cow - May 12, 2009 9:02:13 pm PDT #8146 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But Peter was stolen from Alternate!Walter. So if Alternate!Walter is still alive, boy is he pissed at our Walter.

Oh man! I didn't even think of that. Whoa.

Note that the tabloid headline is "Obamas move into White House".

Actually, the headline read, "Obamas move into new White House." Did the old White House blow up or something? Also, those were the Twin Towers, right? Signifying that that is the alternate reality? Oh, visual shorthand borne out of tragedy.


Typo Boy - May 12, 2009 9:05:16 pm PDT #8147 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Ah. OK. Totally misread that one. Definitely not our reality.


Polter-Cow - May 12, 2009 9:08:23 pm PDT #8148 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My question is, there have to be others, right? They mentioned a multiverse before; this can't be the only alternate reality. The existence of one alternate reality implies the existence of infinite alternate realities.