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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tiggy - Apr 10, 2009 6:55:39 pm PDT #7838 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

T:tSCC just fucked my shit up. just when i was ready to abandon!

they arrived at a spot in time before John Connor was the leader of the resistance. His father didn't know who he was and nor did his uncle.

I disagree about Kyle. i think he knew exactly who John was. i also want to point out that Derek had determined that since they had been messing with time that the future they once knew didn't necessarily still exist. in fact, he confirmed that in a conversation with Jesse about Andy Goode.

oh and that's definitely Allison and not Cameron. dogs can sense terminators. that's why the resistance uses them.

damn...now i'm kind of wishing we'd get more.


Dana - Apr 10, 2009 7:02:42 pm PDT #7839 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

How would Kyle know who he was? They changed the future. John Connor's not the leader of the resistance now until he shows up.

God, my head is spinning. I know this show will probably be canceled, and I will be pissed.


tiggy - Apr 10, 2009 7:10:03 pm PDT #7840 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I don't mean that Kyle knew he was the leader. i mean Kyle knew he was his son.


tiggy - Apr 10, 2009 7:11:00 pm PDT #7841 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

cereal:

although...if he knows he's his son, he'd have to know the whole resistance leader stuff, wouldn't he? yikes. time travel really is timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly.


Dana - Apr 10, 2009 7:12:14 pm PDT #7842 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, exactly. Though he may have looked at John and thought "Boy, that kid looks like me." Excellent casting there.

And dude, if they do get renewed, and we get the adventures of John and company in the future, that will rock. As will the adventures of Sarah, Ellison, and Savannah in the present.


Polter-Cow - Apr 10, 2009 7:15:56 pm PDT #7843 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

T:tSCC just fucked my shit up. just when i was ready to abandon!

Ha ha ha ha. Nice. I considered the possibility that an alternate-future Derek would jump back, but I never thought they'd JUMP THE SHOW INTO THE FUTURE. I thought of you.

I don't think anyone knew who he was, and that had to be Allison. Did we know Allison knew Kyle? I thought we met her as a runaway in the tunnels or something. I forget.

I am all flaily, holy shit. Goddammit, I cannot believe this is the end. NEED. MORE. STORY.


Consuela - Apr 10, 2009 7:40:35 pm PDT #7844 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

OMG Show!

I just.. I FLAIL.

John leaves Sarah and jumps into the future because of Cameron! Sarah can't go with him because she can't do that, and has to fight Skynet here! Derek doesn't know John, and Alison hasn't become Cameron, and OMG.

So is Cameron inside John Henry's body? And can Garrett Dillahunt do ballet?

NEED MORE SHOW.


Dana - Apr 10, 2009 7:49:45 pm PDT #7845 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

John leaves Sarah and jumps into the future because of Cameron! Sarah can't go with him because she can't do that, and has to fight Skynet here!

Remember when Ellison said "She won't leave him, and he won't leave his mother"? Wrong on both counts, dude.

So is Cameron inside John Henry's body? And can Garrett Dillahunt do ballet?

I don't know! I was wondering if he just took Cameron's chip to the future so they'd know how to reprogram Terminators. But Cameron's chip is what enabled John Henry to be mobile? Or maybe John Henry just evolved into mobility?

Where did Weaver go? Who is she pretending to be now?


Consuela - Apr 10, 2009 7:52:26 pm PDT #7846 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Or maybe John Henry just evolved into mobility?

I had thought John Henry was in the machines in the wall. But maybe with Cameron's chip, John Henry could be in Cromartie's body. But where did Cameron go? Was there an intelligence still in the Turk? Who was saying, "I'm sorry John"?

Where did Weaver go? Who is she pretending to be now?

I bet the resistance doesn't know about the T-1000s. Weaver could be anywhere.

God, this show! So amazing. How can it not be picked up? It's so much better than the movie could hope to be.


sumi - Apr 10, 2009 7:53:24 pm PDT #7847 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Is the chip the power source that John was asking about?