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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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One other nitpick, a million light-years away isn't in the galaxy, it's in nowhere, middle of empty space, nada.
Maybe Colonial years are twice as long as ours? That would put Andromeda within range.
Maybe Colonial years are twice as long as ours? That would put Andromeda within range.
Or really short years, Caprica was orbiting a red dwarf. Actually, I feel silly evening bringing it up actually, it wasn't an important line.
If you want electricity, are you going to force people at gunpoint to keep working in the refinery so that the ones who are planetside can have it? I don't see that working out well.
I always assumed they needed the refinery to make fuel for thrust, but power came from fusion reactors. Land a ship and instant power station. No real basis for that though.
I just don't buy that you'd get that many people to all agree to give up their technology. Some sure. But things like algae growing thingy would be awfully useful until you managed get a reliable source of food, guns are good for hunting and dealing with large predators, ships are good shelter until you can make something. That Lampkin was getting ready to make plans for a city would seem to indicate they had the ability to build some infrastructure.
It just seemed too unrealistic and preachy for me to buy. In a series where their has always been dissension and conflict it just didn't work for me that everyone would buy into what is a huge decision. For me, it could have just dropped that part and it would have worked better. They could still send the fleet into the sun (that's it they aren't traveling through the stars anymore) and I'd just mentally fill in they took everything they could use first.
I wasn't really bothered by these questions while I was watching. Most of the stuff felt right or hilarious by turns and I just enjoyed the ride.
Even now, after reading the negative comments and seeing the points everyone has made, I still feel good about how it ended. I can't wait to get it all on DVD, see the deleted scenes and watch the finale as one 3-hour block.
I'm looking forward to The Plan and Caprica. No show is perfect, but this one was damn good!
I really didn't take Galactica as "technology is evil." They stopped carrying the last few pieces of a dead civilization. They'd given up most of it a while ago.
I posted a bit more at length about this on TWOP, but I think, in a lot of ways, the finale works better metaphorically than (perhaps) it does literally. The civilization was gone, and what needed to happen was for them to accept that it was gone, to disappear, Roanoke/Croatan style, into their new land. Their blood survives, their races, but that's all.
In a series where their has always been dissension and conflict it just didn't work for me that everyone would buy into what is a huge decision.
No, I can see that. I was talking to a friend earlier today and we did talk about how it would have played a little better if they'd been like, "We're going to pioneer instead of colonize. Nobody's organizing this. If you want to try to put together a little fishing village with your culty pals, or you want to go build a cabin on a hilltop, whatever, go for it. We got you here, the rest is on you." Which isn't something Apollo could say.
Although Tigh or Lampkin totally could.
I guess for me the key point was that the leaders basically abdicated. So even if some people didn't like the decision... what're they going to do about it? "Give us guns & ammo, or we'll, um, poke you with these not-entirely-dull sticks!"
But going way back I thought that Galactica was sort of the opposite of Babylon 5. B5 was all about how people form groups, and this show was all about how groups develop schisms and fall apart. So I guess just at that level having everyone drift off alone or in pairs kind of worked for me.
"We're going to pioneer instead of colonize. Nobody's organizing this. If you want to try to put together a little fishing village with your culty pals, or you want to go build a cabin on a hilltop, whatever, go for it. We got you here, the rest is on you." Which isn't something Apollo could say.
I think this was probably the intention, but the writers got lost in the grandeur of all the clean slate speechifying and forgot that people watch this show with our brains too.
guns are good for hunting and dealing with large predators
Yeah, I was wondering how, exactly, with no guns, Helo and Athena were planning on teaching Hera to hunt. Does either of them know how to throw a spear?
Quester - you didn't watch the repeat of hour 1? (I watched the second showing so I caught part 1 and then watched the last two hours.)
Or make flint heads? Or a bow and arrow?
Looks like BSG 4.5 won't be coming out 'til July - when the Blu-Ray of the complete series comes out.