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'Touched'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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victor infante - Feb 11, 2009 5:46:36 am PST #6757 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Was Gaeta just reacting suicidally in a BIG way - i.e., if they get attacked they all die? And Zarek - he was just up for a power grab.

Alas, the "what do we do next" question has been the downfall of many an ill-conceived revolution.


Jessica - Feb 11, 2009 10:23:39 am PST #6758 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I mean, what they heck were they going to do that Roslin and Adama weren't doing?

Kill all the rebel Cylons including the Final Four in the fleet. After that...I'm not sure they had much of a plan.


JenP - Feb 11, 2009 10:57:10 am PST #6759 of 30001

Victor is wise. They just bungled it all so badly. Well, Gaeta did. Zarek clearly had no problem dispatching problem people post haste. Note to self: next coup, don't be a Gaeta.


sumi - Feb 11, 2009 12:06:21 pm PST #6760 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Jessica, and yet, the only Cylon that they (may) have killed is Anders.

They could have shot Boomer, Tyrol, Tigh, Caprica, Hera, AND Anders and been well on their way -but they didn't.


Strega - Feb 11, 2009 12:12:29 pm PST #6761 of 30001

Well, Gaeta's actions were based on preventing what he saw as an immediate danger to the dwindling remains of humanity. From his point of view it was New Caprica all over again.

It's worth remembering that Adama had essentially staged a coup of his own. The Quorum agreed that ships could opt out of the FTL upgrade. And Adama decided that, since he's in charge of the guns, they couldn't.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2009 12:15:40 pm PST #6762 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Depends on if you consider it a military consideration or not. If it's about the defence of the population it should be in his domain.


sumi - Feb 11, 2009 12:20:57 pm PST #6763 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Joss in Zap2it and Tahmoh and then And a bunch of Dollhouse links


Strega - Feb 11, 2009 12:27:42 pm PST #6764 of 30001

I dunno. When Lee originally said he'd have to take it to the Quorum, Adama didn't immediately say "It's not up to them." When someone finally said no, then Adama decided it was a military decision.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2009 12:29:28 pm PST #6765 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think he was more wrong to have let the Quorum at it than he was to make the decision himself in the end.


sumi - Feb 11, 2009 12:29:57 pm PST #6766 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

You know, it might have helped had Adama actually gone to the quorum himself.