But Starbuck did die. We've since saw her corpse. It just didn't mean as much as we'd have thought it might. Which is why I'd rather be confused about what it means to have Ellen as the fifth than have them say she's the fifth and then take it back.
Buffy: So how'd she get away with the bad mojo stuff? Anya: Giles sold it to her. Giles: Well, I didn't know it was her. I mean, how could I? If it's any consolation, I may have overcharged her.
'Sleeper'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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§ ita § - Feb 01, 2009 3:32:21 am PST #6587 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
le nubian - Feb 01, 2009 4:19:27 am PST #6588 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I'm don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but Moore definitely said in an interview that he wanted to resolve who was the 5th pretty clearly after the break and thus wrote the revelation to occur in that first ep. Ellen is the 5th.
He took great pains not to talk about it when he gave his commentary because he didn't want that fact spoiled.
Juliebird - Feb 01, 2009 6:20:27 am PST #6589 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
(First Wave.) Yeah, Sebastian Spence turned up with the Pegasus and I was so totally sure he'd be important because he was, like, a recognizable actor.
Woops! And ditto. And then I got cranky because not only was he in a rather smallish part, but he was playing a jerk. Maybe Starbuck should pour salt on him (or was it sugar?)
Consuela - Feb 01, 2009 10:43:23 am PST #6590 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
he wanted to resolve who was the 5th pretty clearly after the break and thus wrote the revelation to occur in that first ep. Ellen is the 5th.
Then... they've not one much of a job dealing with it. If it was supposed to be such a big deal, why isn't it a big deal?
Jessica - Feb 01, 2009 10:46:49 am PST #6591 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think the intention was always to not really deal with it until closer to the end of the series, but RDM wanted the audience to enjoy the intervening eps w/o constantly wondering if THIS was going to be the ep where the Fifth was revealed.
sumi - Feb 01, 2009 11:33:15 am PST #6592 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Space promo for BSG - much better than the Scifi promo.
sumi - Feb 02, 2009 5:05:34 am PST #6593 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Okay, it may be the lack of coffee but this SCC/Dollhouse promo cracked me up.
Jon B. - Feb 02, 2009 6:26:04 am PST #6594 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Is that an official promo? Hilarious!
Ginger - Feb 02, 2009 6:36:08 am PST #6595 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
They're hot! They're soulless! They fight crime!
Over the weekend, I googled "dollhouse wallpaper," looking for actual wallpaper for a dollhouse. I got Eliza Dushku.
sumi - Feb 02, 2009 7:07:19 am PST #6596 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
I think it is an official promo. I'm watching 24 tonight. I hope they run it - I'll totally post if they do.