Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance. Then we ate cookie dough, and talked about boys.

Giles ,'Get It Done'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


beekaytee - Dec 01, 2008 4:30:25 pm PST #5587 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

So. Apparently John Barrowman can't keep it in his pants.

What could possess him? To paraphrase an old show, "Has success ruined John Barrowman?"


tiggy - Dec 01, 2008 4:39:40 pm PST #5588 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

the thing is, though, Barrowman is known for not keeping "it" and his arse in his pants.


beekaytee - Dec 01, 2008 4:52:44 pm PST #5589 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I guess 1) I don't get that humor and 2) I don't see why someone with so much going for him would choose that route.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 01, 2008 5:03:28 pm PST #5590 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"That seven years of McGyver finally paid off."

That just made me laugh and laugh. Along with Chuck teaching Casey rage-fu.


lisah - Dec 01, 2008 6:22:56 pm PST #5591 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

So. Apparently John Barrowman can't keep it in his pants.

I loved this comment on the article!

The BBC needs to find it's backbone and stop giving into this stupid hysteria. Sounds like a funny radio program - stop trying to become America.

ha!


Fay - Dec 01, 2008 8:30:18 pm PST #5592 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

What could possess him? To paraphrase an old show, "Has success ruined John Barrowman?"

Er - my impression is that this is pretty much business as usual for Mr Barrowman.


Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2008 8:44:24 pm PST #5593 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Any ReGenesis fans? I'm just now watching season 1 on hulu. My fear is that the formula is going to grow old in the way that House's has done. But ReG doesn't really have the characters that House does to keep my interest.

Are series 2 or 3 any different?

bonny, a friend of mine just mainlined ReGenesis and loved it all the way through. But she's really into epidemics and stuff.

"That seven years of McGyver finally paid off."

So awesome.


Fay - Dec 02, 2008 12:13:21 am PST #5594 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I guess 1) I don't get that humor and 2) I don't see why someone with so much going for him would choose that route.

Well, I'm not trying to say you should find it funny, because YMMV, but it does sound a bit like you've misunderstood the situation to me.

I don't see him as "choosing that route" - this is pretty normal Barrowman behaviour, from what little I've gleaned so far. He didn't clean up his act and pretend to be prim or straight in order to become famous - he became famous in spite of being openly gay, and a fairly flamboyant/outrageous kind of British thesp. Or because of it. Or something. But it's not a departure from the norm, afaics.

If people are getting their knickers in a twist about this back home, then it's only because of the recent Brand-Ross fiasco; The Daily Mail readers & co (and The Times is basically The Mail with more polysyllables and fewer pictures of Posh and Becks) are probably eager to have another morality crusade. (Quite missing the point, afaic - the Brand-Ross thing was contemptible because it was cruel, bullying and misogynistic - it was priveliged white straight men getting paid to be playground bullies, but the fact that the target of their cruelty happened to be an old man whose celebrity hinges on a fondly-recalled TV show meant that on this occasion a lot of people got indignant and complained. It wasn't about talking dirty on BBC radio. imho. ymmv.)


Barb - Dec 02, 2008 2:13:31 am PST #5595 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

It wasn't about talking dirty on BBC radio. imho. ymmv.)

Yeah, I'm with Fay on all of this. Barrowman isn't being any different than he's been in the past-- now, whether it's to anyone's personal taste or not is a different matter altogether.

Brand and Ross, otoh, were simply jerks.

It does raise the question, however, of whether or not people would be as forgiving of Barrowman if he were a straight guy doing the same thing as he'd done. I mean, on the one hand, it's Barrowman being Barrowman-- the naughty, slightly outrageous gay man. If he'd been straight and flashing people, would the perception then be, "OMG, what a freakin' perv!"


Jessica - Dec 02, 2008 3:54:42 am PST #5596 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

they're counting Razor as part of season 4.

This drove me MAAAAAAAAAAAD when the S4 podcasts finally started coming out. I didn't listen to episode "403" for ages because I assumed it was, you know, the third episode of season 4.

But I would recommend watching Razor before S4 if only because RDM&Co consider it to be the first 2 eps.