DW 4x13: Anyone catch the reference to Eve Myles being in "The Unquiet Dead"?
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Jon B. - Jul 06, 2008 4:28:38 pm PDT #3352 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Juliebird - Jul 06, 2008 4:29:33 pm PDT #3353 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
yup!
DebetEsse - Jul 06, 2008 4:36:52 pm PDT #3354 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Jon, I figured that's as much explanation as we'll ever get, which is kinda disappointing, as I was hoping the connection would play out on Torchwood in the future. But, still, nice meta moment.
Torque - Jul 06, 2008 4:43:08 pm PDT #3355 of 30001
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Jon,
I caught as much as I thought I could without going back and watching every episode to figure out what that was in reference to. I'm still not entirely sure.
DCJensen - Jul 06, 2008 5:20:52 pm PDT #3356 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
DW 4x13: Anyone catch the reference to
I thought it was a natural enough moment the way it was. Both the Doctor and Rose, upon seeing her, at the same time together could only but go "woah!"
Torque, she played the servant at the funeral parlor who sacrificed herself to save Charles Dickens, Nine, and Rose in Season 1.
SailAweigh - Jul 06, 2008 6:26:26 pm PDT #3357 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
After exile to the ass-end of beyond for the weekend, I finally caught up with DW 4.13:
Donna, Doctor!Donna, so. frigging. awesome. Along with 10.5. I could watch an entire season of that. Alas, won't happen. I cried huge, schmoopy tears and my mascara ran all over the place when he wiped her memories. And when he went back into the kitchen to say good-bye and she just dismisses him with a "whatever" kind of throwaway. I get this feeling, though, that her mother will let her know she is special, even if she can't say why. And this Donna will be something special.
Wilf, I love you, man. Wilf cried, I cried.
Rose, could that chick get more memememe, let me stomp my foot? She got her 10(.5), now kiss him, shut up and go away. Sorry, I have Rose issues. Didn't cry for Rose.
Doctor, I wanted more from him. He was too damn quiet when Davros was taunting him. That is very un-Doctorlike. He doesn't give up and that's what it felt like. Not happy at all about the way he wiped Donna's memories. I would rather he let her come to the decisions herself, because she would have. OTOH, though, it almost felt like he did it that way because he was punishing himself by doing it. He knew he was responsible and she would never know it, but he would always remember. She wouldn't feel violated, so he had to feel that for her. I'm a little peeved with him, though, that he felt he had to stick 10.5 in the parallel universe, because "he commited genocide." Yah, think? He's you! The Doctor really hates himself. I cried more.
And, Doctor 10.5. The Ood told the Doctor everything must end, that his song would end, too. And so it will. 10.5 is human. And, he has Rose. Both what he wanted and what he may never be able to have if she doesn't get over herself. I feel more sorry for him than I do 10. 10 has the hope of finding new companions at some time. 10.5 is stuck with Rose. I really, really cried over that!
Trudy Booth - Jul 06, 2008 7:26:29 pm PDT #3358 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
As far as the Doctor not giving Donna any time to accept the mind wipe, it seemed to me (and I'll check on the rewatch) that she was in a crisis of brain-melty proportions and he had to be wiped pretty quickly.
SailAweigh - Jul 06, 2008 7:45:36 pm PDT #3359 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Trudy, I think I'm just having flashbacks to Angel and Buffy in IWRY. It just reminds me too much of Angel making a decision that affected both of them without consulting Buffy.
I think this has been my favorite season of DW. So many callbacks to previous episodes of both this and previous seasons. A truly compelling arc that got me so totally invested in the well-being of the characters I laughed, cried, hurt and felt joy right along with them. Right now, DW is my very favoritest TV show of all time. Maybe even more than Buffy (gasp!)
Polter-Cow - Jul 06, 2008 7:47:30 pm PDT #3360 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I think this has been my favorite season of DW.
Same here.
DCJensen - Jul 06, 2008 8:23:49 pm PDT #3361 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
DW 4x13:
A thought occurs to me about 10.1 (or 10.5...) (Or Doctor Who X 10.5 or...) is that he's Still. The. Doctor. Sure he's human, and he's got a bit of Donna in him, but he's still got the clever and the smarts to build a time/space ship to get off the Earth.
He and Rose can go bopping about the galaxy together, even now. He just can die, so there's a bit of an issue, but Hey...
Maybe all he has to do is get to a spot in the galaxy where something like Tardi grow...or grow one himself.