Deadringers
and now John Barrowman's extra swishiness of his trenchcoat and declaration of his bright shining teeth in whatever it was I'd watched (Torchwood Confidential?) makes total sense.
There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.
Jasmine ,'Power Play'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Juliebird - Feb 17, 2008 4:19:28 pm PST #295 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Invisible Green - Feb 17, 2008 6:39:13 pm PST #296 of 30001
ita:
Owen: "Annoying"
Ianto: "Dull and annoying"
Jack: "Camp and annoying"
Gwen: "Welsh"
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2008 8:00:33 pm PST #297 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Thanks, Invisible! I'd only managed to catch Gwen's. Yes, more ungentle with the show than I would be.
Emily - Feb 18, 2008 3:54:53 am PST #298 of 30001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Hmm. I loved loved loved Ianto as badass, although I do wonder why he was only the officeboy before all this. I rewound to check, and the best I could make out was that he said, "Pray there are five," and I couldn't figure out what it meant.
I HATE the Jack/Gwen thing, partly because it feels unsupported and partly because Gwen seems to be dangerously close to Mary-Suedom for me. But even more do I hate the Tosh yearning. That feels supported, but makes me cringe to the extent I didn't want to watch. Seriously, Tosh! GET THE MESSAGE! Please! You're hurting me!
As for the alien... er. I don't quite see how Owen knew how to euthanize it (one dose sedates, but if that doesn't work just double the dose and you get death? With unknown alien physiology? Sounds like zat-gun convenience to me). I suppose Torchwood was trapped and endangered by the thrashing, but that was all very confusingly shot. I don't know, the whole thing was weird to me. Gwen/Rhys was lovely, and I adore Ianto. Otherwise, eh.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 18, 2008 4:08:46 am PST #299 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
one dose sedates, but if that doesn't work just double the dose and you get death? With unknown alien physiology? Sounds like zat-gun convenience to me
I thought he threw togethter a bunch of poisons (not the sedative they were using) because he knew the tranq wouldn't work.
Emily - Feb 18, 2008 4:23:35 am PST #300 of 30001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Ooookay. I guess. But also, the thing was gimongous. He would have to be using the alien equivalent of polonium!
Vortex - Feb 18, 2008 12:01:55 pm PST #301 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Do not understand where Jack's crush on Gwen came from unless it's because she seems to be the only peson not crushing on him. That, or it's fallout from Gwen refusing to give up on Jack coming back to life the last episode of season 1. But whatever it is, I shouldn't have to work this hard to make it sensical.
god yes. It's so forced! And the actors are doing the right things, saying the lines right, etc. but, it still doesn't ring true.
I think it was "Pray they survive."
I thought it was "pray he survives" i.e. Rhys.
Laura - Feb 18, 2008 12:37:32 pm PST #302 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Torchwood: I can't remember which episodes are white font and which aren't at the moment because they are on my home computer. General comments, love show. Want more. Now. They make me care about the characters. Lots.
Kevin - Feb 18, 2008 1:08:57 pm PST #303 of 30001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I just saw the Doctor Who series 4 trailer, which they've attached to prints of Jumper in the UK. It looks freakin' great.
Also, a question: what do people like about Torchwood? Any favourite episodes? What doesn't work?
Dana - Feb 18, 2008 1:16:26 pm PST #304 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
what do people like about Torchwood?
Drama turned up to 11. Sly humor. Boykissing (and girlkissing).
Any favourite episodes?
"They Keep Killing Suzie," "Out of Time," "Captain Jack Harkness", "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang".
What doesn't work?
Misfires in tone. Questionable character decisions that don't come across as the writers seem to intend them to -- Owen's date-rape in the first episode, Tosh's bouts of doormattishness, Gwen being an ass to Rhys for no good reason. Barrowman overreaching.