Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


billytea - Nov 16, 2015 3:05:48 am PST #28733 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Meanwhile, because I:

a) have finished my studies for the year, and
b) am a giant nerd,

I have gone and ranked all the televised Doctor Who adventures (up to the last Christmas special). I've given them all ratings from 1 to 10, and made each category about equal (25 or 26 adventures for each number).

The First, Second, Third, Fifth and Seventh Doctors all get one adventure rated 10 out of 10. The Ninth Doctor gets two adventures. I agonised over how to bump up The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances; after discussing with Ryan, I docked Talons of Weng Chiang one point for the racism. The Eleventh Doctor gets three top-rated adventures.

Half of these positions, however, go to Ten (six adventures) and Four (seven adventures, six of which have "of" in the title). Rounding it out are three adventures with Peter Capaldi.

The Twelfth Doctor has the highest average adventure rating. I really liked last year. He's followed by the Ninth Doctor, Fourth Doctor and Third Doctor.


Rayne - Nov 17, 2015 12:38:02 am PST #28734 of 30001
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire

Dominic Purcell's Yoplait Yoghurt commercial. This is a thing of beauty!


billytea - Nov 17, 2015 2:26:55 am PST #28735 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Sleep No More's Audience Appreciation score was 78 - the lowest score of any Doctor Who episode since Love and Monsters in 2006. (Probably due to being an experimental episode done somewhat poorly, but I like to imagine it was from exasperated parents whose kids refused to go to sleep because they would turn into eye booger monsters.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 17, 2015 3:04:24 am PST #28736 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Looks like I picked the right episode to skip.


SailAweigh - Nov 17, 2015 12:55:24 pm PST #28737 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Totally. I was more invested in the game I was playing than the show. I didn't feel I really missed much. And did they ever actually resolve the fact that Clara was going to turn into a eye-booger monster? If so, it doesn't really matter, because the premise was pretty lame, anyway.


billytea - Nov 17, 2015 1:22:13 pm PST #28738 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And did they ever actually resolve the fact that Clara was going to turn into a eye-booger monster?

I'm going to say, not adequately; but I've seen suggestions that since Rasmussen had been lying about how it was spread anyway, and the carrier was actually an electronic impulse, Clara wasn't really infected in the first place. She got some dust in her eye through the Morpheus machine, but in terms of infection, it was sterile.


Typo Boy - Nov 17, 2015 1:24:44 pm PST #28739 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Did they actually stop the electronic broadcast. Because if not, the monsters won, and the human race was replace by eye booger monsters from the 30th century onward.


billytea - Nov 17, 2015 1:31:16 pm PST #28740 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Did they actually stop the electronic broadcast. Because if not, the monsters won, and the human race was replace by eye booger monsters from the 30th century onward.

They did not. Which isn't to say that nothing else stopped it, but really, that was just your standard horror movie final "the end... or IS it?" plot twist thingie. Like the undiscovered eggs at the end of the Buffy ep "Teacher's Pet".

But if you would like an extra frisson of dread to go with that, Mark Gatiss has said that Moffat's already talked to him about writing a sequel.


Steph L. - Nov 17, 2015 4:03:21 pm PST #28741 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Holy balls, The Flash gave us Gorilla City!

I squealed like Bobby Hill.


Kalshane - Nov 17, 2015 5:42:24 pm PST #28742 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

On Earth 2, but still, there's actually a Gorilla City. I am so glad they've been willing to embrace the wacky stuff in the comics more and more.

Don't get me wrong, Batman Begins was a very necessary palate cleanser after the clown show of the Shumacker Batman movies, but I'm so grateful the DC TV division (if sadly not their movie division) has realized that they don't need to keep Nolanizing everything to be successful.