A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.
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True; they wouldn't let Arrow use Ted Kord (even though Ray Palmer *is* Ted Kord in everything but the name) because they might want to use him in a future property. (I guess the show can namecheck "Kord Industries" as long as they don't actually use Ted Kord the character.)
But man, I REALLY want her to be Oracle.
I saw one fic that went with referring to whoever was working the comms from the base as "Watchtower," which seemed to work. (This was a story that pulled in a bunch of Batman stuff, too, and fleshed out Starling City by filling in any missing pieces with pieces of New Orleans. Which made for a kind of interesting atmosphere, but it worked.)
I kinda love the Barbara Gordon Oracle, but I am all for that being Felicity's code name. She deserves it.
Sleepy Hollow: so, was the scene of Joe Corbin telling Ichabod to talk to Abbie the first time anyone has actually acknowledged the Ichabod/Abbie thing out loud?
I'm starting to wonder if that was the reason behind his awkward exit. If Jay or Wells encountered Henry they'd kind of have to mention he was Zoom on their world. (Well, assuming they know who Zoom is. I think Wells does, at least.)
Henry is a great guess- I am leaning to thinking it is him, but could it also be Joe?
Joe would be a twist. I could see Henry.
It could be Iris' brother, Wallace.
I would think making him Eddie would be a bit jarring.
Unless you count things like Caroline the Unfortunately Killed Reenactor Lady last season assuming Abbie was Mrs. Crane after she hit on him and he told her he was married...
Doctor Who: I appreciate its willingness, and ability, to experiment; though Mark Gatiss probably isn't the best choice for that. He tends to play it too safe. In this instance, I liked the whole messing about with monsters, images and grit in your eye better when Moffat did it in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.
However, you do have to love its willingness to tell children all over the country, just before bedtime, that if they go to sleep now they could turn into a monster.
In this instance, I liked the whole messing about with monsters, images and grit in your eye better when Moffat did it in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.
Honestly I just could not with the whole "the monsters are made of sleep dust" thing; the Doctor was leaping to ludicrous conclusions with very little evidence. Which, yes, is kind of his M.O., but I can usually go along with it more easily.
I'm not even sure I understand what really happened in this episode now given the end, and since it's the first episode this season that isn't a two-parter, I was left very confused and disappointed overall.
Yes, it didn't really quite hang together. They actually made it a plot point, but I don't think that's really an excuse. It didn't feel like there was a deeper structure we're just missing, it just felt a bit sloppy. (And having the Doctor repeatedly agree that it didn't make sense was perhaps an ill-advised piece of reinforcement.)
Props to Reece Shearsmith, he conveyed unhinged and creepy very well. (For the last 10 minutes or so at least.) And while I didn't really go along with the subsequent explanation, the growing realisation that there are no cameras was good. (And for all that it's a total rip-off of The Ring, it's cute to have the villain's plot being to tell a good story - called back to The Girl Who Died. Especially when "good story" appears to be "half-remembered episode of Hinchcliffe-era Doctor Who".) Oh, and I did rather like the shots of the pod gliding through the deserted corridors (though again, less impressed with how that wound up).
But the plot never really came together and the characterisation for the most part was pretty cursory. (It's not just that I didn't care when someone died; I often didn't realise someone died, and when I did, wasn't sure who had died.) And eye-booger monsters just don't have the visceral pull of the Weeping Angels or the Vashta Nerada (or even the Autons). It's not the worst ep I've ever seen by any measure (not even the worst this year; certainly not the worst Gatiss, not while Victory of the Daleks exists), but it's a big step down from last week.