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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Vortex - Apr 01, 2015 5:05:48 pm PDT #27480 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I thought he was weird-looking in Ed, but I find him oddly attractive in The Flash.

Cause he's so damned smart. Smart is hot.

Well, we don't know what the future-tech did exactly, so maybe some of Wells got sucked over along with the the DNA, and is buried inside, either as memories or a subconscious. It might explain some of not so villainous aspects of Wells current personality. At times he does seem to be genuinely interested in helping people.

My theory -- the two of them were combined into one person (like Firestorm, but on purpose). So, if they kill Thawne, Wells will be left.

I find it painful that that actress is old enough to be Felicity's mom, but I actually really enjoy her character.

I remember when she was a "young star" on Days of our Lives!


DXMachina - Apr 01, 2015 6:11:57 pm PDT #27481 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

So the show took Ray Palmer and basically made him Ted Kord in everything but his name.

Yeah. In the comics, Ray was a physics professor who wore a suit made of dwarf star matter that compressed his atoms to allow him to shrink. He also dated and later married Jean Loring, who showed up on Arrow as Moira Queen's defense attorney.

I'm trying to think of someone else they could have used besides Ray to stand in for Ted Kord, but can't. And Tony Stark is busy in another universe.


Steph L. - Apr 01, 2015 6:14:22 pm PDT #27482 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

How DID Cop Daddy get a warrant for Ollie's arrest? His proof is from a shifty immortal master assassin. How does that stand up before a judge?

I do still love this show, but man, sometimes it's nonsensical. (And not in the fun way that The Flash is nonsensical. Because in the The Flash, they can play fast and loose with time travel, because it's not a thing in the everyday world beyond the 4th wall. But in Arrow, law enforcement is a real thing, and you don't get a warrant because Ra's al Ghul said Oliver Queen is the Arrow.)


Steph L. - Apr 01, 2015 6:15:00 pm PDT #27483 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And Tony Stark is busy in another universe.

Ray is Tony Stark without the daddy issues and alcoholism.


msbelle - Apr 01, 2015 6:16:24 pm PDT #27484 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

mac basically screams "Fake Iron Man" everytime they show the Atom suit. He hates it just a little bit less than Laurel.


DXMachina - Apr 01, 2015 6:33:24 pm PDT #27485 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Ray is Tony Stark without the daddy issues and alcoholism.

Well he does have dead girlfriend issues, so that's gotta count for something.

The fake Iron Man suit sucks. Early on Ray did mention something about using tech to shrink stuff, so I remain hopeful that the real Atom shows up.


Vonnie K - Apr 01, 2015 6:34:46 pm PDT #27486 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Cause he's so damned smart. Smart is hot.

Yeppers. I like lean and rangey type, and I find Cavanaugh very easy on the eyes (honestly, I think he's quite handsome! And not in that jolie-laide way like Willem Dafoe or Steve Buscemi), but it's that cool intelligence behind his eyes that's the kicker.

so maybe some of Wells got sucked over along with the the DNA, and is buried inside, either as memories or a subconscious. It might explain some of not so villainous aspects of Wells current personality. At times he does seem to be genuinely interested in helping people.

This is where I am. My guess is that Wells was supposed to have been a one-season Big Bad, and when TPTB saw how fantastic Cavanaugh was, they looked around a way to keep him around and came up with this.

BTW, did ya hear that Quentin pronounced Ra's as "Rayesh", which is supposed to be the proper way?


Ginger - Apr 01, 2015 6:45:25 pm PDT #27487 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

How DID Cop Daddy get a warrant for Ollie's arrest?

Laurel seems to have forgotten that she's an attorney.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 02, 2015 6:27:40 am PDT #27488 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well... was she ever shown to be a good attorney?


Toddson - Apr 02, 2015 12:14:39 pm PDT #27489 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Anything but, I'd say.