SH - I'm surprised just how much I love this fucking show. Even an episode with Ichabod sidelined by the common cold.
I couldn't believe it the first twenty times you told us, but it's starting to sink in now.
Riley ,'Lessons'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2014 5:29:06 pm PST #26418 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 17, 2014 6:04:44 pm PST #26419 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It helps that the episode caught us up on some sorely lacking sisterly interaction.
Connie Neil - Nov 17, 2014 6:22:13 pm PST #26420 of 30001
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And Captain Irving!
"Don't give me that abetting a fugitive look!"
Strix - Nov 17, 2014 8:32:20 pm PST #26421 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
It helps that the episode caught us up on some sorely lacking sisterly interaction.
Don't get me wrong, love me some Mison, but loved the storyline and the back story. I liked it... BUT CREEPY EVIL DEMON BABY BLEARGH!!!
Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 17, 2014 11:25:27 pm PST #26422 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I at least like that Katrina immediately set about poisoning the little SOB instead of cooing over what a cute baby it was.
Theodosia - Nov 18, 2014 3:06:58 am PST #26423 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Matt, I really need a LIKE button for your statement.
It was great to see the Sisters Mills in action. (Am I the only one who gets a Sarah Connor vibe off of Jenny?)
Zenkitty - Nov 18, 2014 5:33:22 am PST #26424 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I think this version of Constantine goes down better if have not read the comic book. Because the particular issue this episode was based showed a much harder edge, less likable Constantine.
The Constantine comics are my favorite comics of any by far, but I still liked this episode. Even knowing what was going to happen, I liked the way they did it. I liked that they didn't make Gary do anything really bad to make the audience hate him and feel like he really deserved his fate - he was just a dumb-ass junkie and a coward, not a bad guy. I liked that he got to choose his fate and sort of redeem himself, which was different from the comics of course but made the whole thing go down better for prime-time American tv. I liked that John was still the manipulating "bad guy", even though it wasn't as bad as in the comics, and Zed called him out on it. As soon as they explained what the shaman had done, it was obvious what John would have to do. Also, EYEBALLS AAGH.
I'm trying to judge this series on its own merits without comparing it too much to the comic. That's how it'll stand or fall. I mean, I still want the real John Constantine, but we already knew there was no way we were going to get the real Constantine. They can't put that shit on prime-time tv. I'm surprised they even did this story, because there's no way to write it except you end up with a hero who's willing to sacrifice his friends. Zed ought to be packing her bags while he's in that basement. I'll bet money they don't do the Angel Gabriel storyline, though.
Typo Boy - Nov 18, 2014 5:54:57 am PST #26425 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I don't mind them making Gary better, but I wish they had not made Constantine better. He still gave Gary the choice and got informed consent. They could have had Gary figure it out *after* he absorbed the hunger demon and said with his last breath that if Constantine had told him, he would have volunteered any way. That way he gets his redemption but Constantinee's bastardlyiness is not diluted.
Zenkitty - Nov 18, 2014 6:04:05 am PST #26426 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
The writers may be afraid that if they make their main character too much of a bastard, they won't get a second season. If it were on cable, now...
JenP - Nov 18, 2014 12:27:29 pm PST #26427 of 30001
I was pleased with Katina figuring that shit out right away and going for the kill... nice.
Glad they've sprung Irving, so now he's in a position to participate.
Jenny and Abbie were awesome, and I teared up a bit during their final scene with their mother. I also weirdly enjoyed how third (and fourth) wheel you could tell Ichabod and Hawley were feeling when you finally saw them at the very end of that scene -- that was well played, and I loved that it really was all about the sisters and their mother.