Lorne: Once the word spreads you beat up an innocent old man, well, the truly terrible will think twice before going toe-to-toe with our Avenging Angel. Spike: Yes. The geriatric community will be soiling their nappies when they hear you're on the case. Bravo.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


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billytea - Nov 02, 2014 1:46:17 pm PST #26274 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Yet another opinion about Missy Master - feel the force of his compelling logic:

The Master being a woman is idiotic. The Doctor and The Master are men. The Rani and Romana are women. End of. What next - K9 turning into a cat?

The more I think about it, the more hilarious K9 as a cat becomes.


billytea - Nov 02, 2014 1:50:58 pm PST #26275 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Meanwhile, this is a compelling argument against... something. Half-measures maybe. [link]

(My first thought was "I bet Roger Delgado could pull off that look.")


Connie Neil - Nov 02, 2014 2:03:34 pm PST #26276 of 30001
brillig

the more hilarious K9 as a cat becomes.

"I'll get to it when I get to it . . . Master."


billytea - Nov 02, 2014 2:07:32 pm PST #26277 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I keep coming back to Miracleman's COMM'd cat comment:

"Now I'm trying to come up with an alphanumeric way to indicate that I am poinging sideways away from NOTHING WHATSOEVER and that my pupils are freakishly dilated to twice the size of my head."

That's a K9 I want to see.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 02, 2014 2:26:18 pm PST #26278 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If K-9 were a cat Sarah Jane would have been a goner ages ago.


Connie Neil - Nov 02, 2014 2:27:29 pm PST #26279 of 30001
brillig

If K-9 were a cat Sarah Jane would have been a goner ages ago.

I'm horrible for snickering at that.


beekaytee - Nov 02, 2014 2:33:46 pm PST #26280 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I thought The Mistress did a great job mirroring the crazy/manic energy of SimMaster.

Though, I got the impression from 10 that The Doctor would somehow know the Master, even in another incarnation. It seemed odd that he was so totally taken off guard.

Not sure why it bugs me, but I wish they'd come up with a better name than Missy. Even Misty would have been better...though that might have been too close to the nose.

I would pay folding money to see K9 as a Kitty. Give him some 'nip and he's craxier than Dalek Kahn!


billytea - Nov 02, 2014 3:48:28 pm PST #26281 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I would pay folding money to see K9 as a Kitty. Give him some 'nip and he's craxier than Dalek Kahn!

While you're at it, does not Dalek Kahn deserve some 'nip? Purely medicinal of course.

I'm still loving K9 the cat. "Hey, you! Yes, the one with the scarf. Have we met before? Ok, never mind about that. I'm bored. Go fetch that robot parrot thing I killed once. I want to bat it around some more. No, the parrot thing. Belonged to Captain Shouty. Pushed you off a cliff. God, that was funny. ...Well I don't see why you're complaining. You pushed Romana off a cliff next adventure, you don't really have much high ground there. Probably fall off it if you did. There's an epitaph for you. Name: Doctor Scarf. Nemesis: heights. None of which is fetching my dead parrot."


Connie Neil - Nov 02, 2014 3:52:20 pm PST #26282 of 30001
brillig

Once again bemoaning the lack of a Like button.


billytea - Nov 02, 2014 5:24:26 pm PST #26283 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

A couple of random thoughts:

Is this the Cyberman design from Nightmare in Silver? (Not sure how that works, I think that one was set in the far future.) I find these ones more bland in appearance than the Cybus cybermen. On that note, did any Cyberman even get any dialogue? I'm thinking not. They're pretty firmly the support act here.

I've come across the opinion that fundamental to the Cybermen is their 'survival at all costs' attitude. Animating them with the consciousnesses of the dead gives an interesting twist to their "We must survive!" catchphrase.

I've loved Clara this season, she's improved mightily from her time with Eleven. Clara's "I don't want a lava" scene might be my favourite with her so far. (And of course she and Twelve have to include a control freak slapfight in the middle of it.)

Also taken with the Doctor's line, "Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make any difference?". It's a neat corollary to his alien ruthlessness all season. This is in its way just as alien (and ruthless), and certainly just as authoritarian (though I think it avoids the condescension of Kill the Moon). It also answers, for me, his question from the first ep: "Am I a good man?"