Damn you, Bridget! Damn you to Hades! You broke my heart in a million pieces! You made me love you, and then you-- I SHAVED MY BEARD FOR YOU, DEVIL WOMAN!

Monty ,'Trash'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Vortex - Oct 27, 2014 4:09:06 pm PDT #26193 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I actually dislike Clara. I don't like the way that she lies to Danny AND the Doctor. They also don't feel like a team to me, they are separate entities working toward the same goal, maybe?


Juliebird - Oct 27, 2014 4:11:17 pm PDT #26194 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

trees can't stop fires by withholding oxygen because it doesn't get rid of the oxygen already in the atmosphere

I'm still not watching, but this sentence makes me think BACKDRAFT.


billytea - Oct 27, 2014 4:32:12 pm PDT #26195 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I actually dislike Clara. I don't like the way that she lies to Danny AND the Doctor. They also don't feel like a team to me, they are separate entities working toward the same goal, maybe?

I kind of love that. From the end of Mummy on the Orient Express on, she's been making some bad decisions, and for bad reasons. Danny was one of the elements of last ep that I liked, and I'm glad they wrote him as sharp enough to recognise Clara's been lying to him; I would have preferred if he'd also been harder on her about it, but he did still make it clear that she was going to have to make some choices. (The Doctor, of course, realised long ago, probably as soon as she started; but he doesn't seem to care.)

The upshot is that I quite like having this kind of tension in the relationship between the Doctor and his companion, especially tied into deeper themes of Clara's own self-image and moral centre, and how the Doctor's value proposition can really screw people up.

Which leads to the promos for the finale, and I'm less than enthused that they seem to be returning to that Impossible Girl rubbish. (I could be wrong, I hope so anyway.)


Typo Boy - Oct 27, 2014 8:37:18 pm PDT #26196 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I would not like a return to Impossible Girl, but I would don't think I would like "Clara has been secretly evil the whole time" either (One possible interpretation of that promo.) And "Clara has been wiped out of time and now never existed" has been done with another character before. So I can't think of any place the promo hinted at going that appeals to me.


billytea - Oct 27, 2014 8:54:56 pm PDT #26197 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

So I can't think of any place the promo hinted at going that appeals to me.

I can think of one, i.e. That she's bluffing for some reason. I would also be willing to give some benefit of the doubt to a doppelgänger scenario. Alas, I don't think they're so likely; but I do find Moffat's finales are more likely to be cracked out overstuffed hot messes than tired repeats, so fingers crossed?


Kalshane - Oct 28, 2014 8:40:36 am PDT #26198 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Actually pretty excited for Flash tonight and seeing Captain Cold introduced.


msbelle - Oct 28, 2014 5:10:53 pm PDT #26199 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

sj - Oct 28, 2014 5:11:58 pm PDT #26200 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

msbelle, Supernatural has its own thread.


msbelle - Oct 28, 2014 5:13:07 pm PDT #26201 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh that is right.


Jessica - Oct 28, 2014 5:37:49 pm PDT #26202 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I would love to have a serious conversation about where this season's plot is heading, but I can't because DOUBLE JUGS. And yoga and online gaming and more trash-talking. AND finally admitting that he's angry at Katrina and doesn't trust her anymore. Good progress all around.

I do tip my hat to the very nice foreshadowing with the Spider-Man reference in the car. Well done, show. Except then you made me watch Katrina swallow a demon spider. BAD show. Dislike.

Um, so if that's Corbin's son, isn't Ichabod living in his house? Good thing he doesn't want to stay in town...