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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Kalshane - Oct 10, 2014 4:44:45 am PDT #26012 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't know. I'm assuming it's someone new. I imagine Nyssa or Ra's would elicit more than a "What are you doing here? "


Steph L. - Oct 10, 2014 4:46:05 am PDT #26013 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Clearly at some point we'll find out.


Tom Scola - Oct 10, 2014 4:53:55 am PDT #26014 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I think the proper protocol for when Ra's underlings meet him is to kneel and avert their eyes.


§ ita § - Oct 10, 2014 9:55:14 am PDT #26015 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it still called fridging when it's to motivate a female character?


Steph L. - Oct 10, 2014 9:56:58 am PDT #26016 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Is it just to motivate Laurel, though? I'd be shocked if it didn't motivate Oliver. It will certainly give him more manpain to work through.


Tom Scola - Oct 10, 2014 10:03:16 am PDT #26017 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The point of "Women in Refrigerators" is that the victim is treated as a disposable character, so yeah, sure, that can still happen if it's to motivate another woman. You don't think that Tara was fridged?


§ ita § - Oct 10, 2014 10:19:50 am PDT #26018 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think this is an absolutely necessary step to get Laurel to be Black Canary. It will affect Ollie because it's his show, but it's only going to pass as character development for her.

The point of "Women in Refrigerators" is that the victim is treated as a disposable character, so yeah, sure

I thought it no less importantly about whose mill you're gristing.

You don't think that Tara was fridged?

You'd be surprised, apparently.


Connie Neil - Oct 10, 2014 10:27:22 am PDT #26019 of 30001
brillig

I thought fridging applied to women whose *only* purpose was to be motivation for someone. What happened to Tara was kind of Greek tragedy-esque, just as she and Willow are getting back together, she dies.

I see fridging as what happens in other shows where the main character falls in love with someone new, only to have the loved one die.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 10, 2014 12:30:36 pm PDT #26020 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I guess the Bonanza version was root cellaring?


Connie Neil - Oct 10, 2014 1:25:15 pm PDT #26021 of 30001
brillig

Same with The Big Valley. Thrown from horse, drowned in river, shot by hitherto unknown enemy . . . Hooking up with a Cartwright or Barkley boy was fatal. Winchester love interests don't do too well, either.