I would be there right now.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Typo Boy - Sep 05, 2014 9:39:32 am PDT #25630 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And even if you have BBCA subscription that gives you legal access, on demand access is held off until all rebroadcasts are complete

Signed Have to wait until Saturday for second episode, either way.


Anne W. - Sep 05, 2014 10:36:59 am PDT #25631 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I don't mind waiting a day or two. I did the math and realized it may well be cheaper to buy the 2 BBCA shows I watch for the brief run of time they're on than to pay every month for a whole bunch of cable channels I never use.


Trudy Booth - Sep 05, 2014 12:43:12 pm PDT #25632 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I can actually buy that as a post-Time War thing.

Kinda seemed like a decision he had come to right then after the Dalek saw hatred at his core, to me.

I can completely buy this.

What I have a hard time buying is that the Doctor somehow missed that fixing the Dalek would make it hateful again.


§ ita § - Sep 06, 2014 4:07:37 pm PDT #25633 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Even though I don;t do FB, I consider that broadcast.


Vortex - Sep 06, 2014 4:46:26 pm PDT #25634 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't think that FB is broadcast. You have to look for it (or follow it, or like it), just like a post on IO9 or whatever.


sj - Sep 06, 2014 4:50:07 pm PDT #25635 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I agree with Vortex.


Tom Scola - Sep 06, 2014 5:47:58 pm PDT #25636 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

This actually happened: [link]


Calli - Sep 06, 2014 6:31:34 pm PDT #25637 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

This actually happened

Heh. Yeah, I thought Dr. Who was really fun tonight.


Typo Boy - Sep 06, 2014 9:22:45 pm PDT #25638 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It was. Going back to last weeks episode, my take on the Doctor missing that repairing the Dalek would make it evil again: still damaged from the extra traumatic regeneration. When Clara was asked if the Doctor was mad or right and she replied 'both' I think that was one of the points. We can expect the Doctor to make lots of bad decision and then use his genius to recover from them. Which, now that I think about it, has always been a common thread that linked all the different regenerations.


billytea - Sep 06, 2014 11:48:18 pm PDT #25639 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

We can expect the Doctor to make lots of bad decision and then use his genius to recover from them. Which, now that I think about it, has always been a common thread that linked all the different regenerations.

Thinking about that, it's mostly true, but I think the Third Doctor might be an exception to that. (For the most part, there may be one or two exceptions.) Pertwee's Doctor was the most action-hero incarnation, and typically presented an air of command and competence. In fact, on the second commentary for The Five Doctors, Terrance Dicks mentions that he deliberately had the Third Doctor getting the Master's intentions wrong, because Jon Pertwee played his Doctor as always being right, and apparently it got under Dicks' skin. (So to speak.)

(There's at least one exception, thinking about it; namely taking that crystal from Metebelis Three. That whole trip went pretty badly.)

It's certainly true of the First Doctor. In one of the commentary tracks (The Aztecs, I think), Verity Lambert mentions that Sydney Newman gave her the advice that the Doctor should be fundamentally unpredictable. That way, they could use him to push the plot in just about any direction they wanted it to go.