Kaylee: Can I? Zoe: Sure. He's out, though. Kaylee: He did this for me, once.

'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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-t - Apr 19, 2014 3:49:30 pm PDT #24852 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm watching The Cloneversation from last week right now. Good times. The actor who plays Felix having a different accent is blowing my mind.


Jessica - Apr 19, 2014 5:04:27 pm PDT #24853 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Duuuuuuuuuuuude!!!!

(My mom went to bed early and my dad is down in the basement, so the TV was all mine.)

Holy balls, I'm glad this show is back. Alison, I've missed you so much. And Alive!Helena! Of course she's unkillable.


-t - Apr 19, 2014 5:23:25 pm PDT #24854 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

OMG Helena! Shocking and inevitable. I'm really sad about Diner Guy, he made quite an impression in his short time with us.

What the hell is that musical? Besides not Cats.


Vonnie K - Apr 19, 2014 5:51:24 pm PDT #24855 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I burst out with "OMG I love you, Alison," like three or four times during the episode. That scene with Ramon in the parking lot! And wow, it's not enough that she's a freakishly talented actress, Tatiana Maslany can actually sing!

Also, I'm totally confused about timeline. Did Helena's shooting and Kira's abduction all happen on the same night? It's been so long since I watched S1, I can't remember.


-t - Apr 19, 2014 6:06:13 pm PDT #24856 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think yes? I haven't rewatched, but I think so. I have forgotten so much.

That scene with Ramon in the parking lot!

Right? So perfect.

See also Delphine realizing that that was Sarah, not Cosima.


Jessica - Apr 19, 2014 6:07:54 pm PDT #24857 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Of course Alison has an adorable clean-shaved drug dealer who can get her unlicensed firearms. I mean, of course she does.


Jessica - Apr 19, 2014 6:09:57 pm PDT #24858 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(Real History Of Science Fiction, OTOH...well that was just embarrassing. Sorry channel, you know I try to love everything you do, but, well.)


-t - Apr 19, 2014 6:13:27 pm PDT #24859 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I left that running while I did other things mostly not in the room, and catching a minute or two here and there while it played was pretty enjoyable.


Polter-Cow - Apr 19, 2014 8:24:47 pm PDT #24860 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

HELENA HELENA HELENA like I loved her character arc in season one and kind of thought it ended well but fuck it I'm so glad she's not dead. I got super excited when I heard her musical theme and was hoping it meant what I thought I meant AND IT DID.

Alison is still the best. The Ramon scene was wonderful. "How's your mother?"

I'm excited for poor Art to be let into Clone Club!

Fucking Prolethians.

I'm really sad about Diner Guy, he made quite an impression in his short time with us.

I KNOW. Fucking Not!Paul Dano.


Polter-Cow - Apr 19, 2014 8:40:33 pm PDT #24861 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

From the AV Club recap:

Sarah Manning’s ultimately special because she dares go off-script. If she runs into trouble, she’ll chug a bottle of hand soap to buy some time. If she runs up against a wall, she’ll grab a fire extinguisher and bash her way the hell right out. In an instant of inspired thinking, Sarah constantly rejects what should be desperate, cornered moments with her sheer determination to survive.

YES! As soon as she was trapped in that bathroom, I thought of the hand soap and I wanted her to try something ridiculous that no other character in fiction would and she did. I love her.

She then sees the gun in Sarah’s hand with something approaching pity, and says, “You’re not going to shoot me, Sarah.” In that moment, she proves that she doesn’t know everything—or at the very least, she doesn’t know Sarah like we do. Bang. Rachel panics at the fired shot not only because it’s an inch from her pristine head, but because she didn’t anticipate it like she’s anticipated everything else. Rachel can’t pin Sarah Manning down, because Sarah Manning goes off-script.

And that's what's so great about this show and Sarah: it's unpredictable in ways that make sense, because they break from standard television tropes and let their characters act and react realistically.

And then, of course, there’s Tatiana Maslany. After months of telling people how good she is, I watched this premiere and realized that she’s easily ten times better.

For goddamn serious, I still can't get over it. She's unreal.

Also can I just say it's pretty hilarious that they could keep the Helena twist a secret easily because it's not like there would be casting spoilers.