Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Steph L. - Apr 03, 2014 6:15:17 am PDT #24731 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Also, how does he throw a katana with such an unerring accuracy when he has no depth perception?

Handwavium + mirakuru.


Vonnie K - Apr 03, 2014 6:27:24 am PDT #24732 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I also loved how remorseful and genuine Moira was with Oliver yet she STILL didn't tell Oliver Malcolm Merlyn was alive, 'cause you know, it wouldn't be Moira fucking Queen if she showed all her cards.


Toddson - Apr 03, 2014 7:27:00 am PDT #24733 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

When the line about "sins of the father" came up I expected River Tam to reveal (SURPRISE!) that she's Ollie's hither-to-unknown sister (different mother, of course).


Steph L. - Apr 03, 2014 7:45:39 am PDT #24734 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

When the line about "sins of the father" came up

She didn't really explain that, though, did she? So now I'm ridiculously curious.


Tom Scola - Apr 03, 2014 7:49:08 am PDT #24735 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

In the comics, Isabel Rochev knew Ollie's Dad, probably in the biblical sense.


Steph L. - Apr 03, 2014 7:50:59 am PDT #24736 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Which, if they're following comics canon, makes her sleeping with Ollie in Russia SO GODDAMN CREEPY.


Steph L. - Apr 03, 2014 8:13:57 am PDT #24737 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I said to Barb on FB that it feels like the show is heading for a "Becoming Pt. 2" moment of "No weapons...No friends...No hope. Take all that away...and what's left?"

Because Ollie is kind of losing everything, isn't he? I don't think he cares all that much about Queen Consolidated, except for the part where it *is* his family's company, after all. But still, he's lost QC, he's lost Thea, his relationship with Moira is by no means patched up (I don't think; I think at best they established a detente), Roy has left town to punch things, Laurel knows he's the Arrow, Cop Daddy is arrested, and all hell has broken loose.

And there's still 5 episodes to go. Daaaaaang.


Vonnie K - Apr 03, 2014 8:20:03 am PDT #24738 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I thought that was a given. Both her statement about sins of father and son and her earlier interaction with Moira (arctic breeze had nothing on Moira Queen's disdain) pointed toward Isabel having a history of Robert Queen. The sexy kind, obviously. Robert Queen was supposed to have been a big philanderer, IIRC. I didn't even need comics canon to come to that conclusion.

The fact that she probably slept with both Queen Pere and Fils just makes me laugh. I mean, she's a supervillain hench-woman! They are mass-manufacturing a deadly serum that'd kill 90% of those who receive it and turn the rest into rageaholic killing machine! It seems small potatoes in the scheme of things.


Steph L. - Apr 03, 2014 8:23:10 am PDT #24739 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It seems small potatoes in the scheme of things.

Fair point.


Vonnie K - Apr 03, 2014 8:29:07 am PDT #24740 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

it feels like the show is heading for a "Becoming Pt. 2" moment

I agree. Because Slade is so many moves ahead of Ollie and is turning out to be basically unbeatable, I think it's gonna take everything he's got, all his friends, and would probably take an act of great loss to balance it out. Which again makes me think Sara is toast. Or Laurel or Quentin, but less likely. I'm not spoiled, but I'm fairly certain that one of the Lances is gonna bite it before the finale. I am fretting at the prospect but I can probably live with it as long as they don't sacrifice Diggle or Felicity (WHICH WILL NEVER HAPPEN, NUH-NUH.)