Marco: Do we look reasonable to you? Mal: Well. Looks can be deceiving. Jayne: Not as deceiving as a low down dirty... deceiver.

'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Dana - Oct 04, 2013 9:11:31 am PDT #23246 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

From what I read, they could possibly have picked up the back 9 for a total of 22 episodes, but for whatever reason, they went instead to a 13-episode second season.


juliana - Oct 04, 2013 9:22:33 am PDT #23247 of 30001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

It's a weird thing, but whatever.

IIRC, the BBC and CBC have been pro-short-season-runs for a long time. I think it makes for better storytelling, actually.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2013 9:24:49 am PDT #23248 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the BBC is pro-short-season-runs so much as Britain doesn't do 22 weeks of fiction as a standard.

Depends on what your story is and how your economy works. If you need to lock down actors and have regular seasons, the US has got the way of it.


Connie Neil - Oct 04, 2013 9:46:45 am PDT #23249 of 30001
brillig

I can'd decide if short-season is a better or worse investment for a network. You aren't sinking as much expectation in a potential dog to carry you from Fall to Spring, but you don't have the security of saying "Well, there's a spot we don't have to worry about, that hit show will carry us for months."


le nubian - Oct 04, 2013 11:44:33 am PDT #23250 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

UtD played as though they thought they'd have a single-shot miniseries until about halfway through when they realized they could extend it -- so they had to bring in new characters to suddenly kill off, because they were running out of primary characters too quickly.

Man, Theo nailed it and made me laugh. There are so many problems with UtD, it isn't even funny. The worst is the plot/plotting, but characterization and actual reflection of what might happen in such a town if they were cut off.

Because it was billed as a "limited" series, I also thought the story was going to be wrapped up by the end of the summer. So I was quite irritated that it got a second season mid-way through. Not as upsetting as "The Killing" first season débâcle, but close.


Hil R. - Oct 04, 2013 12:11:12 pm PDT #23251 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Friday Night Lights was 22 episodes the first season, then 15 the second because of the writers strike, and then 13 episodes each season after that. Since the nature of the show pretty much meant that each season had to cover the time period of a high school football season, roughly August-December, each of those later seasons had a whole lot of people explaining what they'd been doing for the past eight months in the first episode.


-t - Oct 05, 2013 7:46:23 am PDT #23252 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

If OUaT gives me a Cowboy Neal at the wheel of a bus to Neverland scenario I will be a happy camper.


Juliebird - Oct 05, 2013 1:37:07 pm PDT #23253 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Rewatched DW's Vincent and Van Gogh. Forgot how the end makes me cry, I think with joy, but it's also still pretty fucking heartbreaking, too.

Looking at ep titles, I have more warm fuzzies for season five than seasons six or seven of New Who. Especially 7. I didn't dislike season 7, but Clara is no Rory, or, Clara didn't have a Rory, and the mystery of who she was didn't really hold much continued anticipation it seemed, and I've rewatched all of seven most recently.


beekaytee - Oct 05, 2013 1:43:32 pm PDT #23254 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm totally with you, Juliebird.

I have "The Age of Steel" on right now. (Season2 Ep7) It has some big feels too.

Not only is the Van Gogh episode my favorite of all the Smith endeavors, it is one of the top 3 DW eps ever, in my estimation.

Having said that, I had a long conversation with a Whovian buddy the other day in which we both sang the lament of our people. "Why can't we have Russell back?"

Sigh.


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2013 4:07:13 pm PDT #23255 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I admit--I stopped watching TVD, but since I caught the last two episodes of the past season, I thought I could make sense of a recap of the season opener, and no...pretty impressive stuff. I mean, I think my eyes were open for the finale, but I seem to have retained little other than Bonnie's death. Which...yeah.