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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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P.M. Marc - Jul 23, 2013 11:22:22 am PDT #22901 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Evil scheming lying Peter is my favorite Peter, honestly.


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2013 12:01:07 pm PDT #22902 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think I'd like him better if the other Hales treated him like he was a bad guy. I get that if you're of a pack (and is he, technically? Sis? Is Derek their alpha?) that's a strong bond, but STOP TRUSTING HIM.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 23, 2013 12:10:27 pm PDT #22903 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

At this point I don't get the impression that Derek actually trusts him, so much as suffers his presence because he doesn't want to kill him again, and occasionally orders him to do something useful. As for Cora, I can't begin to guess what her views or motivations are since the text tells me NOTHING in this regard.

After rewatching last week's episode last night, I really want to know what Scott thought his division of labor would accomplish. Cora has been pretty much useless in conflicts with the alphas so far (when not an active hindrance/danger to her family), and putting Stiles and Lydia on scene is just giving the opposition two more helpless hostages. Meanwhile Scott, who actually can intermittently stand up to an alpha in combat, runs off to rescue Deaton from an enemy that that can use the supernatural effectively against even alpha werewolves and has so far only been successfully thwarted by Lydia's and Stiles' brains.


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2013 1:55:25 pm PDT #22904 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I assumed he thought Deaton was his problem, but they should do their best to not send wolves out alone unless some part of the journey is wolf-dependent. Scott got fucked over my Mama Argent because he was alone--they didn't have enough spare humans then, but they do now.

Also, more phone calls/text messaging.

I also thought Scott thought he was running towards a fight as well. He just shouldn't have run alone. And the other kids should just peep through windows if they don't have escorts and Allison isn't packing.


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2013 2:31:54 pm PDT #22905 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Now I'm reading meta that says Peter was even more unreliable than we saw--as in, this all happened to him, not Derek.

Which would be fine, but then we don't know why the blue eye thing? I suspect Jeff didn't know at the time, or he's changed from the original meaning, because this is kinda confusing for no good reason.

Also that age bullshit--ask them what year they were born Stiles. Stop letting them be assholes to you.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 23, 2013 3:19:14 pm PDT #22906 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Also, more phone calls/text messaging.

That reminds me, I cracked up at Isaac stopping to answer his phone in the middle of watching Derek fight for his life against Kali, with the two alphas that have been tormenting him playing make-a-wish with Ms. Blake like five feet away.

Then upon reflection I realized it was probably realistic for today's teenagers.


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2013 11:50:39 am PDT #22907 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm glad Tyler has Derek in perspective: [link] I like him ten times more.

Tyler H, not Derek. He's still a stupid, dangerous ass.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 24, 2013 7:32:03 pm PDT #22908 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Heh. Derek's actually beat Scott every time they've fought, and I think he and the kanima were about even for victories against each other. It's just when facing other alphas or hunters that he turns into Snagglepuss.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2013 8:05:11 pm PDT #22909 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Has he beaten Scott in a battle of will or words yet?

Why didn't you guys talk a bit more about Continuum? I fell down the same hole I got with Lost Girl where the season pass that had been working just fine broke because the episodes are being listed with the Canadian premiere dates. So I grabbed a bunch of episodes from...places, and the weekend that was supposed to be Orange is the New Black has turned into Breathe Heavily for Victor Webster.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 27, 2013 9:05:15 pm PDT #22910 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Has he beaten Scott in a battle of will or words yet?

I think he has a battle of wills a couple times when he was first training Scott to protect himself against the (as yet unknown) alpha. To win a battle of words he'd have to actually use more than one per sentence.