Well, partly the Walter White comparison is because of 'upstanding citizen turns meth cooker for what he thinks are good reasons' and because Dean Norris is playing Big Jim. But yes, as Matt says, the Book!Big Jim is such an overt villain. Especially in Maine small-town politics where Town Meeting gets the majority of citizens together and budgets are gone over with hundreds of eyes.
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Theodosia - Jul 05, 2013 8:18:28 am PDT #22813 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
§ ita § - Jul 05, 2013 8:56:50 am PDT #22814 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I couldn't imagine him ever maintaining a respectable facade long enough to get elected to office.
On the flip side, I wonder if anyone without a moustache they continually twirl can get into politics. It's hardly full of of by-the-book white hats and martyrs.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 05, 2013 9:07:24 am PDT #22815 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
True, but they don't usually come off as raving lunatics or crime kingpins to the public. I actually think there's more room for crazies to get elected in statewide or national elections than local because they're drawing from a constituency that mostly doesn't personally know them. In a small town of a couple thousand people, everyone is in everyone's business and if a public figure has pulled the kind of stuff Big Jim characteristically did in the book it would be the talk of the town.
Typo Boy - Jul 05, 2013 12:37:51 pm PDT #22816 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I've known a fair number of good guys in local politics, including one mayor who I disagreed with on a number of issues whose personal integrity and fairness I had great respect for. A fair number with virtual mustaches or even goatees too, but plenty of decent men and women.
The worst of the villains was fairly colorful, and evil in a way that was very non-traditional, and unstereotyped. I will share if anyone is interested.
le nubian - Jul 05, 2013 1:05:35 pm PDT #22817 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Under the Dome is entertaining, but the writing is kinda bad. Also, the fire scene this week was one big eye-roll. I wish the teen serial-killer in training would die soon.
Juliebird - Jul 05, 2013 1:28:37 pm PDT #22818 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
My mother, who is the queen of watching shite television, bailed once she got to the fire scene and deleted it from her dvr. I'm so proud of her for having standards, even if they are inconsistent.
As for the mayor, I thought he was played quite anviliciously evil and mustache-twirly in the pilot. Or maybe not so much with the twirling, but definitely, like his son, his character spun so fast into "villain" that it was a bit whiplashy for me. I'd much rather watch a character who may appear villainous from one perspective, but who is presented so that we understand where he is coming from, even if it's about power and greed, or "I'm making the hard choice that I know won't go down well in the public's eye, and is morally wrong, but I'm aiming for the ends justify the means" and not "This town will be mine, muahahaha!". I thought he was written and played ham-fisted.
Theodosia - Jul 05, 2013 1:40:32 pm PDT #22819 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
It may be that I have a kinda weak spot for Dean Norris.
Trudy Booth - Jul 05, 2013 4:00:13 pm PDT #22820 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I wish the teen serial-killer in training would die soon.
I wish the victim would pick more productive lies if she's going to lie. Play nice, stupid.
le nubian - Jul 05, 2013 4:30:31 pm PDT #22821 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I can imagine she is terrified. But she probably just needs to be nice to him and he'll let her out.
§ ita § - Jul 05, 2013 4:34:06 pm PDT #22822 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If someone is clearly crazy, then plan A is to play along. Save "being right" for plans B or C. Give survival and escape a chance first.