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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Steph L. - May 08, 2013 5:49:49 pm PDT #22549 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Did Daddy Merlyn actually say "Oh, no" at the end?


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:09:49 pm PDT #22550 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

He did.

I couldn't figure that out. Given what he's done up until now, why would this particular development bother him?


Steph L. - May 08, 2013 6:21:33 pm PDT #22551 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I couldn't figure that out. Given what he's done up until now, why would this particular development bother him?

Perhaps he does actually still possess some shred of conscience? And/or just feels bad that he almost killed his son's buddy/Moira's son?

Also, I am NOT ON BOARD with Ollie and Laurel.

And I remain, as always, a HUGE Felicity fangirl.


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:26:08 pm PDT #22552 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I concur...Tewltly.

The "I see what you did there" moment with Tommy made me groan out loud.

Cliche much, Show?

But, Felicity was awesome. It's too bad she did not see the tracking of her trojan horse. She was not paying attention!


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:29:21 pm PDT #22553 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Supernatural: similarly WHOA.


Steph L. - May 08, 2013 6:29:45 pm PDT #22554 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The "I see what you did there" moment with Tommy made me groan out loud.

DRAPES EXIST FOR A REASON, LAUREL.

I don't want Tommy to go bad, except he's kind of awesome no matter what.

I feel like Daddy Merlyn can't survive the season finale. He's a bad guy, and he knows the vigilante's identity now. I can't think of a way that works on an ongoing basis, narratively. Unless Ollie is totally outed in the finale. (Which I kind of think will happen, because it just seems like it's set up for A LOT of people to discover his identity: Thea and Roy, Moira, Cop Daddy, and Laurel. By the end of the episode, only Walter won't know Ollie is the vigilante. [Also: WALTER DON'T GO!])


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:36:04 pm PDT #22555 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

AGAIN, I am totally with you.

Your thought about Daddy Merlyn was exactly my thought. That and, really, is that the best they can do with his hair?

Unless they work out some massive, spiritual/moral turn-around on DM's part...which, if they do, I'll have to quit the show.

Too bad for John Barrowman, but he'll land on his feet.

I'm crushed at the thought that Walter will actually leave and am hoping he somehow becomes part of the Scooby Gang. He's too awesome to lose.

I was relieved that Ollie finally knows all about Momma Queen's involvement and, what the undertaking is. That 'he nearly found out but missed it by thismuch' storyline was beginning to grate.

No LIE about the curtains! Who does that? And, what are the odds that he'd be standing outside at that precise moment?

I say again, WAY too cliche...besides, Shakespeare did it better. Retire that theme, writers!


Vonnie K - May 08, 2013 6:43:15 pm PDT #22556 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Also, I am NOT ON BOARD with Ollie and Laurel.

Seriously, that was the most awkward sexytimes ever. Stephen Amell has mad chemistry with EVERYONE... except with Katie Cassidy. I know they are a big time comic couple and all, but I found myself rolling my eyes whenever they had scenes together in this ep. And Tommy seeing them together was such a hackneyed plot device, I can't even.

I gotta admit, I am watching this mostly for the Felicity Smoak Show. And Felicity-and-Diggle-Making-Fun-Of-Oliver Show. I loved seeing the entire Arrow Cave team out in the field doing the undercover work together. I OT3 them, kinda.

I would be surprised if Malcolm makes it through the finale. He'll die, and then some bigger plot would be revealed that mandate Oliver continue his work as the Hood, blah blah burderned-with-glorious-purpose-cakes.


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:47:58 pm PDT #22557 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I would be surprised if Malcolm makes it through the finale. He'll die, and then some bigger plot would be revealed that mandate Oliver continue his work as the Hood, blah blah burderned with glorious purpose-cakes.

Yeaaaahhh. That was totally telegraphed with the speechlet about the list not being 'the point.'

Having no knowledge of source material, I wonder if that is how they sustained the character's run.

Incidentally, I complained earlier about one of the voices being dubbed in the last Elementary episode...dubbed by a MUCH more British person than the actor, who is well known to me.

I'm betting folding money that the voice is Colin Salmon's, but I can't find it anywhere on the 'net.

Sigh. Colin Salmon. He really should be Bond some day.


Steph L. - May 08, 2013 7:00:26 pm PDT #22558 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Your thought about Daddy Merlyn was exactly my thought. That and, really, is that the best they can do with his hair?

Yeah, seriously. An evil overlord should have better hair. And a falcon.

Too bad for John Barrowman, but he'll land on his feet.

He's so pretty, I really want him to stick around, but I don't see how it could happen.

I would be surprised if Malcolm makes it through the finale. He'll die, and then some bigger plot would be revealed that mandate Oliver continue his work as the Hood, blah blah burderned with glorious purpose-cakes.

Well, when Malcom (suited up as the Dark Archer [they seriously need better names]) beat the hell out of Ollie at Christmas, he said something about having a "boss." So even if he leaves the show, there's still something big and bad out there. (Because I'm assuming the showrunner knows how ridiculous it would be to bring in Mystery Evil Overlord in the finale and then axe him/her.)

I gotta admit, I am watching this mostly for the Felicity Smoak Show.

She has the best lines in the history of awesome lines, and her delivery cracks me up. She is my nerdy awkward kickass spirit animal.

And Felicity-and-Diggle-Making-Fun-Of-Oliver Show.

Heh, yes indeed.

I OT3 them, kinda.

I wish that I shipped Ollie and Felicity, but I don't. I *do* think she has hella chemistry with Digg, though.

Also, I think the show has done a good job in the flashbacks of showing Ollie gradually turning from spoiled pretty playboy to someone capable of holding his own.