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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


-t - Oct 01, 2012 9:17:33 am PDT #21263 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That I can't help you with.


tiggy - Oct 01, 2012 10:51:29 am PDT #21264 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

someone posted this on tumblr and suddenly i'm very much not okay with Amy and Rory's fate.

i keep thinking back to amy’s afterword and how it says everything the doctor needs to hear: that she’s happy, that she did find rory, that they lived a long life together and then i keep thinking back to river’s words

don’t let him see the damage

and wondering whether anything in that afterward is actually true.


Polter-Cow - Oct 01, 2012 10:58:30 am PDT #21265 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh shiiiiiiiiiit.


sj - Oct 01, 2012 10:58:52 am PDT #21266 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

tiggy, I'm convinced it's not true. It's just too easy for this show. I'm hoping in a year or two they'll revisit this storyline. We don't even really know that Amy wrote that, do we? I know that River could time travel to where and when the The Doctor couldn't, but how would she even know when and where to begin looking for her parents?


aurelia - Oct 01, 2012 11:01:53 am PDT #21267 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Did anyone watch 666 Park Avenue last night? And, if so, is it worth watching?

I'm not fully hooked, but it was interesting enough that I'm willing to give it a few more episodes.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2012 11:08:44 am PDT #21268 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

how would she even know when and where to begin looking for her parents?

Is this the same River that can fall out of one spaceship into the Tardis? Her parents are, relatively speaking, sitting ducks.


sj - Oct 01, 2012 11:12:16 am PDT #21269 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Is this the same River that can fall out of one spaceship into the Tardis? Her parents are, relatively speaking, sitting ducks.

I guess so. It's probably something I could handwave away if I didn't feel that the rest of the episode was such a mess.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2012 12:08:09 pm PDT #21270 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Given that they found River in the first place, she must be able to do something to inject herself into the situation. So I was taking that as written.


JenP - Oct 01, 2012 12:14:47 pm PDT #21271 of 30001

I guess I want to believe the afterword and the gravestone that indicated a long life together, and I'll just assume a certain amount of good and bad as with most people. But it does seem to me that they were together, and I think that was the most important thing for both of them.

I was actually just glad not to have my heart ripped out the way it was with Donna. I felt bad for the Doctor, and Rory and Amy, being ripped out of their timeline and away from their family, friends, and the Doctor. But I was glad that they lived, remembered, and were together -- or, at least, that's what I took away from the show. Not ideal for them, and not ideal at all for their families, but it could have been worse. Donna's family made out better, certainly, though her dad obviously had some residual guilt to deal with having been the reason the Doctor had to "die."

I think I'll choose to believe the link Fiona posted up thread.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2012 3:20:42 pm PDT #21272 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How cute are these doctors? And companion?