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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Sep 09, 2012 7:56:43 pm PDT #21086 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

They have a greedy murderous trader with a big nose and they name him "Solomon"?

And disabled, at that.

I don't get the reference.


DebetEsse - Sep 09, 2012 8:18:25 pm PDT #21087 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

At this point, the companion isn't our viewpoint character, are they?

I wish the show would embrace this more.

I don't get the reference.

It's not a particular reference, and not particularly in conjunction with the Jewy McHebrewson-ness of the character, just a bonus stereotype.


Typo Boy - Sep 09, 2012 8:21:21 pm PDT #21088 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Solomon is a pretty standard Jewish name. They are playing to a Jewish stereotype. (Not on purpose I'm sure , but someone should have noticed )

Or if you were only asking about he disability: Disabled = Grotesque = Villain is a very old meme in pulp fiction. Phantom of the Opera and Dick Tracey are both well known examples.


P.M. Marc - Sep 09, 2012 10:20:42 pm PDT #21089 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

2) Queen Nerfiti chooses to have a romance with the white big game hunter in 1902 Africa rather than go back to rule her people?

Were they actually in Africa, or did they convince the Doctor to let them hang with the dinos?

Also, seemed less romantic than fun times with some not so bright, but quite fit, man candy. Which, you know. Rupert Graves. Who can blame her?


Fiona - Sep 09, 2012 11:24:32 pm PDT #21090 of 30001

I seem to be in the minority but I thought this week's Who was terrible. Sloppy plotting, annoying (not in a good way) and unfunny robots - even if they were voiced by Mitchell and Webb, who I normally rather like - perfunctory background to the new "companions" and uncharacteristic behaviour. The Doctor sends the bad guy off to his death without a second thought? What was that all about?!

Williams and Son were about the only bright spots.

I'm willing to chalk it up to "one for the kids", but next time they need a stronger story to go with the cool title.


P.M. Marc - Sep 10, 2012 7:12:28 am PDT #21091 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I loved the robots. I was very sad to see the robots die.

I somehow hadn't noticed they were being voiced by Mitchell and Webb. That explains a lot about my robot reaction.

Amy was awesome.

Hey, how old were Rory and Amy at the end of the first Eleven episode?


Mickie - Sep 10, 2012 7:48:06 am PDT #21092 of 30001
Who, Me?

Did anyone else think 'Hack and Slash' from Reboot during this episode?


Typo Boy - Sep 10, 2012 9:35:27 am PDT #21093 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The Doctor sends the bad guy off to his death without a second thought? What was that all about?!

The bad guy had committed genocide. And was trying to kill te doctor and enslave Nerfiti and kill the other companions. And could have backed down at any time. This Doctor has a temper. It is quite in character for him to kill in response to things along those lines. "Oncoming Storm"


§ ita § - Sep 10, 2012 10:03:01 am PDT #21094 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Plus, he got a take back on the Dalek genocide, so he's got numbers to make up.


Scrappy - Sep 10, 2012 1:43:11 pm PDT #21095 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Ten killed a bad guy in his first outing, as I recall. Plus the Doctor gave Solomon several chances to do right, which he did not take.