This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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aurelia - Apr 20, 2012 5:13:27 pm PDT #19969 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

OMG that was a seriously mind-blowing Fringe!

this girl they've cast is perfect.

I know, right?! She was great.


aurelia - Apr 20, 2012 5:14:29 pm PDT #19970 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

It sounded like Bell killed Olivia. Or it was somehow his fault.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 20, 2012 5:50:04 pm PDT #19971 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm confuzzled. They distinctly showed Nimoy in the amber. And I thought Walter only had two associates who came with him that way. So did Bell turn into Peter after being pushed out? Is Peter ... Bell in some way? Totally baffled.

But fun episode nevertheless, especially in showing the Observers would turn "decadent" in their way (i.e. abuse of power).


aurelia - Apr 20, 2012 6:23:46 pm PDT #19972 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I think they tricked us into thinking Simon was pushing Bell out, but it was actually Peter. They left Bell ambered sans hand.


quester - Apr 20, 2012 6:52:53 pm PDT #19973 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

That was confusing but I think you have it right, aurelia. I was stunned that Nimoy was there even in amber. But maybe he wasn't considered part of the team?


aurelia - Apr 20, 2012 8:39:40 pm PDT #19974 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I know it's silly, but I do enjoy it when Joel Wyman responds to one of my tweets with a winky face.

I was stunned that Nimoy was there even in amber. But maybe he wasn't considered part of the team?

Probably not since Walter said Bell couldn't be forgiven for what he'd done to Olivia.


Consuela - Apr 20, 2012 8:54:44 pm PDT #19975 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't think they actually got Nimoy, though: I bet it was just CGI.

That was wacky, I have to say. And what relationship does the colonization storyline have with the dual-universe storyline?

In fact, which universe was this? The amber made me think it was the Red universe, but Walter was pretty clearly not the SecDef.

I don't get it!


-t - Apr 20, 2012 9:26:36 pm PDT #19976 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

A whole new universe, maybe. Or what emerges if the red and blue universes collapse into one, maybe. Er, the amber versions of the red and blue universes. I may need a different vocabulary to figure this out.

On the whole, bewildering! Walter with his whole brain is a scary dude. Other than that, I do not know what to think.

Is this the future that Peter jumped to that time that I can't really remember?


Consuela - Apr 20, 2012 9:28:34 pm PDT #19977 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Is this the future that Peter jumped to that time that I can't really remember?

I'm not sure. That one was in the middle of something, and he had aged his way into it, and Olivia was in it. So I don't think it's the same future.


aurelia - Apr 20, 2012 9:37:00 pm PDT #19978 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I don't think they actually got Nimoy, though: I bet it was just CGI.

Actual Nimoy, according to Wyman (or Pinkner, I forget which).

I think this was a possible future for the amber world we've been in this season. They didn't address what happened to the red side in this future, but Bell had to come from somewhere.

The other future we saw was prevented when Peter chose not to destroy the red-verse with the machine.