Wash: Captain, didn't you know kissin' girls makes you sleepy? Mal: Well sometimes I just can't help myself.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2012 12:34:39 pm PDT #19856 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

...No? I suppose I have no evidence either way, but I'm going to stick with...no.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2012 1:24:04 pm PDT #19857 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then you're probably not one of the people she's trying to avoid.


le nubian - Apr 02, 2012 1:39:58 pm PDT #19858 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Poor Jasika Nicole. I get her discomfort and I'm glad she did it in such a productive way. Fuck people who make it about them and not about the person they supposedly admire. She has a right to her discomfort and privacy.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2012 2:20:01 pm PDT #19859 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"Your feeling bad made all of Fringe fandom feel bad. Stop having feelings and stand still."

Jesus. People too, you know.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 02, 2012 2:30:07 pm PDT #19860 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I would much, much rather have a celebrity disengage politely with social media fans than have them stay involved in increasing discomfort out of some sense of obligation.


§ ita § - Apr 03, 2012 7:36:22 am PDT #19861 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm kinda irritated that Saskia turned out not just to be chaotic neutral, but what seems to be evil. I feel like too many steps and coincidences are in place to keep Bo from finding out not just about her specific personal history, but also about what it means to live as a succubus. Can't you have a mystery about the former and make some progress on the latter? It seems a bit unlikely to me, that even though she's not swearing allegiance to light or dark, that she can't find any sort of information about how to live with what she is.

I'm okay with her wising up a bit.

Still love Kenzie to bits.

Weirded out by Dyson's possessiveness. It strikes me kind of like those people that start dating cops and then get upset they risk their lives every day.


-t - Apr 03, 2012 7:49:40 am PDT #19862 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Kenzi and the siren betting on when Bo and Dyson would next blow up was my favorite part of this ep.


§ ita § - Apr 03, 2012 7:53:10 am PDT #19863 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That was pretty cool.

Interesting that the siren is a) male and b) not sexy. I can see that they wouldn't go with the traditionally sexy siren since the main character is a succubus, and that would be confusing and distracting, but what you're left with is a bit weird, powers wise.

And, lord, I wish Anna Silk were more sensual. There were times during this ep where I thought she should be just oozing it, and...nothing. Frustrating.


Typo Boy - Apr 03, 2012 7:54:53 am PDT #19864 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

That Bo puts up with Dyson strikes me as evidence for my take, that emotionally she is stuck at the level of a not too mature high school student. And show has specifically said that an exclusive relationship with Dyson, at least one that provides Bo with the energy she needs for good health is bad for Dyson's health. To keep them both in good physical shape, she needs to see other people.

As to coincidence, maybe Saskia is not a coincidence but a plot point. The whole "say my name bitch" implies to me that she is at least a known force, which I suspect will end up with her being more than a powerful player who happened to run into Bo. Maybe it was no accident that she ran into Bo. Maybe she sought her out to try to and shape the direction Bo's life was taking for some reason. To take the speculation in an even more unsupported direction, maybe she keeps doing dark things that alienate Bo because she is trying to turn Bo to the dark side, and intended that from the beginning - just not getting the results she wanted, because she is not actually a great emotional manipulator when she can't use sex. I admit, not only unsupported, but kind of a stretch even for this show. But there do seem to be some hints (not evidence, just really faint hints) that this is what is going on.


§ ita § - Apr 03, 2012 8:36:41 am PDT #19865 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You know, this is another extreme May-December relationship, where the guy has decades if not centuries over the woman. Can anyone remind me of examples where the woman has a supernatural amount of years over the guy?

Darla was older than Angel, and Dru was older than Spike, but the shows focussed more on Angel and Spike with Buffy, not their respective sires. I'm blanking on other examples.