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Theodosia - Mar 25, 2012 7:44:03 am PDT #19782 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

So there'd been enough time for Romero's "zombies" to get accepted as the canon mythology.


Typo Boy - Mar 25, 2012 8:27:58 am PDT #19783 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Although KNown, dont think they were "the" Canon yet. Other zombie mytholodies still very active in popular culture, including the tormented zombie who passed for human and hated his (almost always a he) unlife.


quester - Mar 25, 2012 8:52:25 am PDT #19784 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Loved the episodes of Korra. I just hope the rest of them will be accessable on line.


§ ita § - Mar 25, 2012 8:54:36 am PDT #19785 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you have any examples of that, Typo? I'd love to read about some pre-Romero non-Vodou zombies.


Typo Boy - Mar 25, 2012 9:50:58 am PDT #19786 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well they were usually Voudou, but the author's Voudou, with not much of a nod to actual Voudou culture.

One really awful non-Voudou one 'The Return of Dr. X' [link]

Humphrey Bogart is the zombie doctor.

[on edit] early on, a pale Bogart with a streak of white in his hair is introduced stroking a bunny. "we are both victims" he says. "Victims of what he is asked" answer: pause "circumstances".


Typo Boy - Mar 25, 2012 9:53:10 am PDT #19787 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

There were also some movies in which zombies are used as soldiers in WWI trench warfare, which I think was in part meant to be a reference to how horrible the conditions in which soldiers lived and died in in the trenches.


Zenkitty - Mar 25, 2012 11:30:53 am PDT #19788 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Any other examples besides Return of Dr. X, Typo?


Typo Boy - Mar 25, 2012 5:18:52 pm PDT #19789 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

There are, but hte problem is I saw them all on late night TV during bouts of illness, so I have to google titles to find details.

One of the post WWI that I am 90% sure is "scientific" rather than vodou is the again awful "revolt of the zombies". Zombies were used successfully in WWI, and now a soldier has been sent to Cambodia to recover the formula. But he abuses it for his own purposes. Revolt of the Zombie is another tormented scientifically created zombie out for revenge. There is also "revenge of the zombies" in which zombie slaves are created to serve Nazis, and the zombie maker has even turned his wife into a zombie. Zombie wife ends up leading the revolt of the zombie slaves against the zombie maker. Plague of Zombies does have the zombies raised by means learned in Haiti, but it is a Welsh squire raising the dead to work as miners. I think Romero took his dead rising from the graves scene in 1968 from this. I'll bet Hec can remember more of these than I can. There is also "strange creatures who stopped living and becaming crazy mixed up zombies" which I have never scene, because I always assumed no film could be either as good or as bad as that title.


Ginger - Mar 25, 2012 5:37:28 pm PDT #19790 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Typo had me trying to remember the name of a b&w zombie movies I saw years ago, and in the process I discovered the existence of Shock Waves (1977), in which Peter Cushing leads an army of Nazi zombies.

The movie I was thinking of was "I Walked with a Zombie," in which the woman's zombie-like state may be from disease, abuse by her husband or voodoo. What I remember about it is that it had a wonderfully spooky atmosphere and the sort of acting in which lines are delivered with a lot of dramatic pauses. "Yes, she is ....... a zombie."


smonster - Mar 25, 2012 6:17:43 pm PDT #19791 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Just finished watching the first two eps of Korra. Oh, how I missed this world! I loved Tenzin's son falling asleep while meditating, and Toph's daughter calling Korra out on vigilante justice not being her purpose in life.

Can't wait for more! I really hope that the rest of the episodes are available on Hulu or somewhere online, since I have no tv.