Dawn: I thought you were adequate. Giles: And the accolades keep pouring in. I'd best take my leave before my head swells any larger. Good night.

'First Date'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2012 9:56:31 am PST #19037 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eddie McClintock sells art. His art, I mean. Web site.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2012 10:18:29 am PST #19038 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are the rings (eta: uh, on The Vampire Diaries) supposed to work so that they prevent you from being killed by anything a supernatural creature does directly? As in, if they drive the car that hits you, or they shoot you, that's as "supernatural" as them biting you?

One of the attacks previous to this one convinced me of that, but there are so many attempts at fatality that I don't remember which one.

Basically, is Ric having further injuries likely to be a retcon, or what?


sumi - Jan 07, 2012 11:01:07 am PST #19039 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

It's definitely new.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2012 11:23:07 am PST #19040 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The further injuries is new? Or that they're supposed to be protection from *whatever* a supernatural being does to you is new?


sumi - Jan 07, 2012 12:50:03 pm PST #19041 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Further injuries.

I don't recall the details on what the ring protects you from. It does seem ridiculous that it should protect you from anything a supernatural being does to you. (But VD does not shy away from ridiculous.)


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2012 3:44:00 pm PST #19042 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The VD wiki says this:

The Gilbert Rings protect people from being killed by supernatural beings or causes, as long as the rings are worn.

I also found this:

Oh, and trust me, I was THRILLED when I saw that Alaric was wearing his ring and was thus not really dead, but whatever happened to “there’s nothing supernatural about a bullet”? I thought that established that the ring only protected people from physical acts committed by supernatural entities, but not mechanical weapons. Yes, I know that the Sheriff (a human) was the one who shot Jeremy, but it seems a little silly that the person pulling the trigger makes a difference between somebody living and dying. Now, being protected because a vampire was sucking your blood or breaking your neck or physically throwing you off a building? Yeah, I can buy that. But I don’t see how the ring would protect you from being crushed by an SUV, just because a hybrid so happened to have been driving (what luck!) Again, it’s great news because Alaric is one of my favorite characters….it just didn’t seem in line with how I understood the way things work. But maybe I’m wrong.

And this mention of it working in what seems like a more remote effect:

Isobel tossed John down the stairs as a distraction to kidnap Elena, but he was wearing the ring and came back.


§ ita § - Jan 09, 2012 6:51:02 am PST #19043 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bad news for Fringe? Also discusses the fate of House and Terra Nova.


-t - Jan 09, 2012 7:02:37 am PST #19044 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I didn't even know I had to worry about Fringe. Sigh.


Theodosia - Jan 09, 2012 7:38:08 am PST #19045 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Just maybe if they didn't schedule Fringe opposite two other SFF shows it might get better numbers. SIGH


aurelia - Jan 09, 2012 10:03:57 am PST #19046 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Nooooo!