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I would have been surprised, honestly but I came across a spoiler on an unrelated video a few days before so I knew the ending. But my mom didn't see it coming and said, "well, what did they expect? She's been gone so long." Heh. Like she was watching an episode of Law and Order. Mom doesn't do sci fi or fantasy.
I thought the final scene was incredibly moving with shooting Hershel's wife in front of him, the firing squad of the characters we care about forming to take down the walkers. Also the two mothers on the ground, Lori holding a crying Carl and Daryl holding a crying Carol. Andrea got to be her bad ass self.
BTW, the Talking Dead show right after is a genius move on some executives part, delivered at the moment that I most want to talk/think about the episode and carried out in a fun way. Last night I especially laughed at Greg Nicotero's gift to the host, a replica of Daryl's ear necklace.
They know their audience, don't they? It was a geek's wet dream. Alice Cooper being all fan boy on the phone. The ear necklace. Seeing the behind the scenes. Lori Holden calling in and saying not to hate her because she shot Daryl, because she really loves Daryl. Norman Reedus (Daryl) reacting to that. Norman's story about the actress that played Sophia telling people he was her boyfriend. I was dying from the cute. That was a great night of TV.
My favorite part was in Talking Dead though when they showed the filming of that scene and the other actors all running over to give her a hug after it was over.
Rick had to do it, because it was his fault, beyond his control maybe, that she was lost. He made them stay to look for her. If he was going to be leader of the group, he had to step up and do it. Now he is going to be the only one of them that hates himself.
I just watched the latest Fringe. Right in the middle of appreciating the call back to Olivia fussing with her hair before going to see Peter at the end of Jacksonville my reactions suddenly shifted to, "What the hell? Wait...no..no...is that cortexiphan? Holy fucking shit, Nina!"
Dude. I was so flail free until that moment. The Lincoln & Peter friendship is kind of adorable though.
Oh, oh, oh! And there was a Violet Sedan Chair song! I love that song.
Thoughts on OUAT - everything seems to start from the Disney version. They may be deconstructed, informed by more authentic stories but they start where possible from Disney. I suspect the meta reason suggested is part of it, but it is also part of the story telling.
Something interesting about the curse. With some exceptions the curse turns people into what it seems like they would most hate to be, and yet their true selves often shine through and mitigate that.
Snow White was a bad-ass in the otherrealm, so in this one she is a demure teacher of children. Yet she really seems to like the children, be good at teaching, and even if she has no talent for physical violence in our world (or none that she knows of) is a badass teacher.
Or Red Riding Hood was "good girl" in the other world, so she is dressed in hootchie outfits in ours, and from what she let slip is sexually active. Yet her "goodness" was also based on kindness in the story. She brought goodies to Grandma who probably really needed them in spite of knowing traveling through the woods was risky. And in our world she is still generous, kind, loyal to friends and taking risks to help them. The curse defined "good" too narrowly, by the culture of the otherworld rather than by ours.
Even before Emma came to town, people's true natures were pushing back against the curse.
Separate thought. I'm certain that what I'm about to say is not and will never be canon. But we have yet to see a single provably supernatural thing in our world in OUAT.
One possible interpretation, which again I'm sure will never be canon: All the fairy-tales we see come because Henry was given a really imaginative book that are great metaphors for what is going on in town. They are in Henry's head based on his reading of the book and maybe extending them a bit. It is just a crappy, creepy little town where everything is dominated by an evil domineering mayor and the wicked Mr. Gold.
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It is just a crappy, creepy little town where everything is dominated by an evil domineering mayor and the wicked Mr. Gold.
And where people are apparently stupid enough to use dynamite as their first attempt at a mine cave-in rescue. And light matches inside the abandoned mine.
Well if there is no magic, extreme stupidity explains a lot. Or maybe everyone in town is high. If there is a magic, the extreme mind control could cause fuzzy thinking and lack of focus as a side effect.
(And I don't really think the writers will go down the path of making the magic not real. The first time we see magic in our world , or whatever world storybrooke is in, will be a big deal.)
Well, Snow still has her Disney™ bluebird power.
