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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


aurelia - Nov 11, 2011 6:10:11 pm PST #18716 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I know! The silver lining is that there will be time to go back and watch some older episodes since there have been so many callbacks this season. I accidentally ran across a spoiler today that has me wanting to watch a chunk of season 1.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 11, 2011 6:39:03 pm PST #18717 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Fringe was really good, but it made me so sad. I'm not used to Stephen Root making me sad, but he did. And the Walter/Peter and Peter/Olivia stuff was almost as heartbreaking.


sumi - Nov 11, 2011 9:15:06 pm PST #18718 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, it was good and sad. And poor Peter trying to find his home.

I cannot believe that next week is the Fall finale. I mean, we just got it back!


Consuela - Nov 11, 2011 9:18:45 pm PST #18719 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I hadn't realized that these episodes were really arguing that it was a third, new, universe, not just a new timeline created by Peter's evaporation of himself by his use of the machine. ... and wait a minute, doesn't that argument contradict what the Observers said?

I'm confused.


§ ita § - Nov 11, 2011 9:41:01 pm PST #18720 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I thought Peter had to resplit the universes and this one would go right. Not that he had to go home to a different one.

My god, Walter not loving Peter is heartbreaking. Walter not looking at Peter is heartbreaking.

Man, would the hiatus have been until January 13th even if they hadn't delayed by two weeks? I guess we're lucky, relatively.


aurelia - Nov 11, 2011 10:40:37 pm PST #18721 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Peter's absence changed things for both red and blue so it is a different timeline, not a different universe. I think it is confusing because of the way different universes have been explained. It's hard to define the difference between a alternate timeline and a alternate universe.

I don't think Peter needs to split the universes/break the bridge, but after his trip to the future I could see why he'd see the machine as the solution to his timeline problem. I still wonder how involved the Observers were in his non-existence.

Man, would the hiatus have been until January 13th even if they hadn't delayed by two weeks?

I don't know if the return date has changed, but I do know one episode that was supposed to air this month has been bumped to Jan.


Theodosia - Nov 12, 2011 3:53:11 am PST #18722 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I didn't realize that was Root's real wife -- she was great.

It was a very emotional episode, one of the best they've done for that kind of drama.


aurelia - Nov 12, 2011 9:49:50 am PST #18723 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Here's something I didn't notice. [link] I'm inclined to think that is JJ's ring, not Peter's.


le nubian - Nov 12, 2011 10:03:16 am PST #18724 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree. He was naked as a jaybird days before. Where would he get jewelry?


sumi - Nov 12, 2011 1:05:01 pm PST #18725 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, continuity error not a plot point.