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'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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WindSparrow - Sep 11, 2011 5:47:42 pm PDT #18089 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I wonder if Rory didn't bring it up, not only because he's a really good guy and doesn't throw things in people's faces, but also because he did grok the difference in signing on to wait, willingly and knowingly, versus expecting rescue at any moment. It's the expecting that gets you. How many months, how many years did Amy spend wondering if the noise she just heard on the other side of the door was a handbot or the Doctor? It's stressful to do that for a day or two - but as the months dragged on, it would have been hell.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2011 6:19:30 pm PDT #18090 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pretty sure if I waited 2000 years, I'm not even picking up around the house.

"Uh, honey, picked up around you for millennia. My feet hurt."


Maysa - Sep 11, 2011 6:25:26 pm PDT #18091 of 30001

I think Amy's 36 years was worse that Rory's 2000. She was abandoned (Rory made the choice to guard her) and she was completely alone. Bad things happen to people's minds when they're alone for extended periods of time. She was basically suffering through psychological torture for several decades.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2011 7:15:51 pm PDT #18092 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think Rory was making valuable connections with the outside world during his sojourn.


Vortex - Sep 11, 2011 11:57:27 pm PDT #18093 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I wouldn't be surprised if they just said, "We're not doing this anymore." E

Martha did that, and that's one of the many reasons that I loved her. She realized that she wasn't going to get what she wanted, so she needed to try something else.


zuisa - Sep 12, 2011 8:51:29 am PDT #18094 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

Martha did that, and that's one of the many reasons that I loved her.

And now Martha is basically the only companion living in the correct universe and possessing all her memories of her time with The Doctor. And working for UNIT. Married to Mickey. So things are working out pretty well for her. Martha is awesome.

I also wouldn't surprised if Amy and Rory cut and ran while they still could as well. Whereas Rose and Donna truly didn't have much of a life outside The Doctor and traveling with him, Amy and Rory have each other. And hopefully, at some point, their daughter.


sumi - Sep 12, 2011 9:16:20 am PDT #18095 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Did you guys notice Martha's mum in L&O:UK? Cause she was.


Sheryl - Sep 12, 2011 12:02:48 pm PDT #18096 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

sumi, really? I guess I haven't gotten to that ep.(I'm still in last season, so Peter Davison hasn't arrived yet)


sumi - Sep 12, 2011 12:09:36 pm PDT #18097 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, then you have something to look forward to. It's a small but key role and could possibly be recurring (because I haven't seen all of this season so don't know.)


Polter-Cow - Sep 12, 2011 12:39:55 pm PDT #18098 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

One of the mods on Mark Watches has an excellent analysis of "The Girl Who Waited" that ties the entirety of Eleven's arc together in really interesting ways.