Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Scrappy - Aug 05, 2011 2:16:17 pm PDT #17720 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I sorta thought it was a continuation of what we was saying in the previous paragraph with an interjection from the Interviewer in between:

But it was his first meaningful relationship in ages that inspired Coupling. When he and Susan started living together, he says he was confronted with a "completely different set of life priorities": suddenly there were cushions everywhere. Or, as his alter ego in the show puts it: "Tiny picture frames, toilet-roll holders, toilet-roll ... "


smonster - Aug 05, 2011 2:23:06 pm PDT #17721 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I'm not really sure how one would explain away this quote:

"I don’t know how well women come out of Coupling," says Moffat, the son of a headmaster, who taught English in Greenock before following his original writerly instincts and scoring his first success with Press Gang. "There’s this issue you’re not allowed to discuss: that women are needy. Men can go for longer, more happily, without women. That’s the truth. We don’t, as little boys, play at being married - we try to avoid it for as long as possible. Meanwhile women are out there hunting for husbands."


le nubian - Aug 05, 2011 2:25:16 pm PDT #17722 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jesus Christ.


§ ita § - Aug 05, 2011 2:27:17 pm PDT #17723 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But the men are all idiots on Coupling, and only two of the women. Was that not on purpose?


Consuela - Aug 05, 2011 2:33:07 pm PDT #17724 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

"There’s this issue you’re not allowed to discuss: that women are needy. Men can go for longer, more happily, without women. That’s the truth. We don’t, as little boys, play at being married - we try to avoid it for as long as possible. Meanwhile women are out there hunting for husbands."

And yet that's the premise of half the new sitcoms scheduled to air next fall! I hardly think that's something nobody is allowed to discuss -- in fact it's so completely implicit in western gender relations that it doesn't need discussing. The forbidden thing is to challenge those assumptions, not validate them.

Man, this pisses me off. I wanted to like Moffett.

Also? I never played at being married. Fuck you, Moffett.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 05, 2011 2:42:59 pm PDT #17725 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Are there only three women on Coupling? I can only remember Susan, Sally, and Jane.

ETA- nevermind, I was remembering 4 men, but that is because Jeff was replaced.


Maysa - Aug 05, 2011 10:27:03 pm PDT #17726 of 30001

I don't really care what he says in interviews - just watching the awfulness of gender relations on Coupling was enough for me to get very nervous when he took over DW.

On the whole, I thought his first season of Who was pretty good and not that sexist. But this season, oy. Having Amy be so horribly violated (separated from her body, denied the experience of her body and her pregnancy) and then get rescued by two men just horrified me. Not to mention the idiocy of making the question "who is River Song?" just be about her parentage and not about who she is as a person and what her story is - (plus, the Doctor is going to seek her out as a girl and then fall in love with her as an adult?) well, that just made me think that Moffat's version of Who is getting really boring and really creepy at the same time.


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 7:22:11 pm PDT #17727 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

So is anyone else watching Falling Skies?

I'm 4 or 5 eps in. It's all a bit Manly, and the women still have ridiculously good hair and makeup. It's set outside Boston, which is kind of amusing (although sometimes laughably wrong).

But they do seem to give a damn about actual tactics and long-term strategy when dealing with an oppressor they can't hope to understand, or even communicate with.


le nubian - Aug 06, 2011 7:23:58 pm PDT #17728 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yes. Beau and I have been watching it and have been unimpressed. I think the writing quality has been uneven and they have a horrible habit of telling, not showing. all the fucking time.

I think this show would really benefit with the use of flashbacks, but I get the idea they are on a limited budget.


Consuela - Aug 06, 2011 7:31:37 pm PDT #17729 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think this show would really benefit with the use of flashbacks, but I get the idea they are on a limited budget.

Yeah, the ep I just watched was the one where they killed off wassname, Steven Weber's character, and I was a bit boggled that they wasted his appearance. And that whole business with the death of Dr. Carter's wife would have made an excellent flashback.

I did like the way the pilot started with the kids telling stories, but I'm getting dreadfully bored with Moon Bloodgood's character. I do like Maggie the rape survivor, though--they're not glossing over her damage (much). (For tv.)