Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Zenkitty - Aug 04, 2011 2:13:11 pm PDT #17697 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

WTF, why? Did they need the timeslot for a show about ghost-hunting wrestlers? Or ghosts who haunt wrestlers? Or the ghosts of wrestlers?

I admit it, I've watched Ghost Hunters more than a few times. They go to some really cool places that I'd never see or even know about otherwise -- that insane asylum in Western Pennsylvania or the antebellum plantation house that's now a private residence are not going to be on the Travel Channel. But dude -- they never find anything. All they ever get on their super-sciencey devices is bumps and vague shadows and occasional noises that might be a voice from a nearby cordless telephone. How can they still be on the air, with websites devoted to analyzing their "results" (seriously, at least two) when they never fucking find anything?

And SyFy is canceling Eureka. Idiots rule.


§ ita § - Aug 04, 2011 2:17:13 pm PDT #17698 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sometimes shows just end, Zenkitty. Nothing lasts forever. I know it's trendy to blame showrunners and networks for everything under the sun, but sometimes shit just happens.


quester - Aug 04, 2011 2:28:36 pm PDT #17699 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Damn!


sj - Aug 04, 2011 2:46:52 pm PDT #17700 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

SyFy bringing Eureka to an end

Am I reading correctly that there is going to be another 13 episode season and then 6 additional episodes after that? If that is the case, I can live with that. We've had Eureka longer than I was expecting to, and I'd rather shows go out while they're still good.


Zenkitty - Aug 04, 2011 3:16:45 pm PDT #17701 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Sometimes shows just end, Zenkitty. Nothing lasts forever. I know it's trendy to blame showrunners and networks for everything under the sun, but sometimes shit just happens.

I wasn't blaming anyone (okay, except stupid SyFy), and I do know that shows end. I'm just surprised. Eureka is really good, it does well and it doesn't seem to be losing viewers, and I can't understand the decision to end something that's doing well.

However, that was before I read that there will be another season of 13 episodes after this one, and then a 6th season of 6 episodes, if I'm understanding this correctly, so it's not the abrupt plug-pulling I initially understood it to be.


Nora Deirdre - Aug 04, 2011 6:20:14 pm PDT #17702 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

A blog post on Tiger Beatdown that pretty much well articulates the discomfort I've had with Moffet's Doctor Who.

I do not hate Rory as much as some of the commenters seem to, though.


Dana - Aug 04, 2011 6:21:14 pm PDT #17703 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Oh my god how can anyone hate Rory?


quester - Aug 04, 2011 6:37:57 pm PDT #17704 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Oh my god how can anyone hate Rory?

Seriously! Without him, I don't care that much for Amy!


smonster - Aug 04, 2011 7:24:10 pm PDT #17705 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

the show did not become truly amazing until Steven Moffat took over as lead writer and producer at the beginning of the fifth season, the same time that Matt Smith became the new Doctor.

Clearly, we don't hang in the same circles. I was super thrilled for Moffat and tired of RTD's maudlin attitude (that extended goodbye sequence in Tennant's final ep? Hurt my poor rolling eyeballs, even if there were parts I liked). And yet, Moffat has not lived up to my expectations.

[Martha] ended up married to Rose’s ex-boyfriend Mickey

Wait, what? Did this happen on TW? And didn't Mickey end up in the alt-universe? I'm so confused.

Can we all take a moment here to agree, unequivocally, that “feisty” is the single most condescending adjective in the English language, ranking even above “articulate” in its ability to convey disdain?

Hell no, I'd give that to "cute." Call me "feisty" and I might growl. Call me "cute" and I'm kicking you in the nads (present virtual company excepted). Tell me I'm "cute when I'm angry" and I will shoot laserbeams FROM MY EYEBALLS.

A small white room that bore a remarkable resemblance to a refrigerator.

Oh, damn. That is... a connection I had not made.

A woman who exists to bring a baby into the world (so that it can grow up and make out with Matt Smith) might as well be made of cardboard.

Excuse me, THAT'S her offhand summary of River Song? I get that this is an article about Amy Pond, but if you're complaining about how a female character is written while dismissing another fascinating female character, I feel like it weakens your argument.

I don't know. Reading all that, I can see why she might be annoyed, but it seems overly harsh to me. I mean, Rory has had many moments of insecurity, but if my best girl was super close with someone as charismatic as the Doctor, I'd be a little unsure, too.

OMG I generally love Sady Doyle but I do not get her hate-on for Rory. At. ALL. He's emasculated? Really? IDK.

Ack. Having a hard time separating meta- and intra-textual analysis. Tired.

But really, all that love for Donna and no bitterness over her fate? The shittiest fate possible for a companion and for her in particular, to forget that she'd ever been awesome or special or traveled the universe? And there was that ep where the writers had a chance to fix it, to have her remember, but no.

I'm probably not able to be objective about this, and I did watch Who back in the day, and remember the damsel-in-distressedness of previous companions, and I don't think Amy is all that bad. I also watch other contemporary tv shows who don't serve their characters as well. And while I'm at it, let me bring up Cordelia. TWO demon pregnancies and a season spent in a coma, thx.

::sigh:: tl; dr. Sorry for being all rantycakes. I do not intend to suggest that Who is not problematic, that Moffat is not capable of doing a better job of crafting storylines, that Pond would not be a better character with more agency. See my link in Press on enjoying problematic media.


smonster - Aug 04, 2011 7:27:08 pm PDT #17706 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

But wait, there's MORE.

On River Song - I *like* that she knows things the Doctor doesn't. I don't find her two-dimensional at all. Who knows, maybe they'll fuck up everything now that mysteries are coming clear, but I'm finding the hints we find out interesting.