I thought I just posted a response, but it didn't go in here. Oops. Anyway - speculate away; I got no spoilers to accidentally spill.
Xander: How? What? How? Giles: Three excellent questions.
Xander/Giles ,'Never Leave Me'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
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JenP - Apr 28, 2011 11:54:47 am PDT #16811 of 30001
aurelia - Apr 28, 2011 9:37:35 pm PDT #16812 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Okay, long day so here's the short version. Random thoughts may or may not connect to one another.
The remaining episode titles are The Last Sam Weiss and The Day We Died . I think both episodes are the finale; one from the point of view of the blueverse and one from the point of view of the redverse. I fully expect the final episode to be utterly gut wrenching and end with the possibility of the Observers stepping in with some sort of re-set. I don't know exactly what that would mean for S4, and I'm very wary of the idea of a JJ re-set. I take comfort, however, in the thought that JJ may be approving the route but he's not steering the boat.
I'm fairly certain that Sam Weiss is one of the First People. I have no idea what that ultimately means or in what way he is untrustworthy. I sort of vaguely wonder if Peter is also a First Person, just without the memory of previous incarnations. Who knows, maybe Olivia is, too. Maybe everyone is an incarnation of a First Person and only Sam carries the collective memory of the original society. (helloooo tangent) Anyway, the whole faith, ability, destiny thing kind of gets my synapses all atingle.
I doubt we'll hear much more about him this season, but I still wonder about Bell. We've seen self-sacrifice from him, but all the info we've heard about him when he wasn't around was about founding ZFT and starting the Cortexiphan trials basically to build an army for this war between universes, then designing shape shifters and weapons for the red side. And he's somehow connected to Sam Weiss. I think it could be argued that his crimes/sins/whatever are much worse than Walter's. Even at his worst, Walter is acting out of love.
Those are my sleep-deprived ramblings. If I get a chance tomorrow, I'll try to check in and see how far off the rails I went with this post.
Theodosia - Apr 29, 2011 2:56:49 am PDT #16813 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Interesting, aurelia! Have no idea whether they'll bear fruit, but I could see it working that way.
aurelia - Apr 29, 2011 6:42:18 am PDT #16814 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
I put my chances somewhere between being right about the pregnancy and being wrong about how Bell would appear in LSD. Which is to say, who knows? I may not get to find out until sometime Sunday.
§ ita § - Apr 29, 2011 2:17:12 pm PDT #16815 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm linking to this here because it has snippets of Dr. Who and Torchwood from a BBC trailer, but really it's chock full of British actory goodness, and everyone should get a taste.
dcp - Apr 29, 2011 4:15:36 pm PDT #16816 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.
Fringe
Walter: "What was the voltage on that one?"
Astrid: "I'm gonna go with 'high.'"
Hee!
sj - Apr 29, 2011 4:21:30 pm PDT #16817 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Did anyone else respond to Olivia's "What's in the box?" with "The Doctor"? Just me?
Dana - Apr 29, 2011 4:58:25 pm PDT #16818 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
Dude, Sierra's in Torchwood? Goddamn them.
tommyrot - Apr 29, 2011 5:25:34 pm PDT #16819 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Doctor Who Monopoly Limited Edition Limited to 5000.
Speaking of, have we ever had an explanation why Amy doesn't remember the Dalek invasion from a few years back? I had assumed that the cracks in the universe caused that part of history to be erased, but the show hasn't actually said what happened there, has it?
Frankenbuddha - Apr 29, 2011 7:12:03 pm PDT #16820 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
So did Peter end up in a third universe? Holy shit!