What is your childhood trauma?

Cordelia ,'Lessons'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Strega - Nov 08, 2010 5:01:40 pm PST #14697 of 30001

I'm not following -- they who?

All I mean by non-vodoun is the Romero concept -- ravening hordes of dead people are trying to eat you, rather than "someone stole his soul and now he's a mindless automaton." I Walked With a Zombie made good use of the lore, but I wouldn't call it a zombie movie because that means something different to us now.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2010 5:35:22 pm PST #14698 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They==them, you know, everyone that writes the stories.

I just think it's weird that vampires can wander so far from whatever lore, but *inside* stories zombies don't while outside stories we call everything with a mindless shamble a zombie.


Strega - Nov 08, 2010 6:26:07 pm PST #14699 of 30001

I dunno, there's quite a lot of variation in the zo-media; as with the conversation upthread, it's more often the audience who's saying "oh, that isn't actually a zombie."

Maybe... you are they!

But that's another reason to avoid the word. If saying "zombie" is going to cause half the audience to sigh, "Nooo, zombies are like this," there's no benefit in it.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2010 6:32:18 pm PST #14700 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But the level saying 28 Days Later isn't actually a zombie movie is reacting to the initial overwhelming assumption that it was a zombie story. I think it's a minority that get all hard core.

But if it were mentioned in story, you'd know what to take their heads off withm, like you know how to battle a vamp. Or you could point out what's not actually a zombie and move on.


DCJensen - Nov 08, 2010 6:39:55 pm PST #14701 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

From the title, I'd assumed it was a werewolf story.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 08, 2010 6:47:31 pm PST #14702 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Should I find myself the protagonist of a horror story in progress, my policy is going to be that decapitation is a good idea no matter what sort of monster it actually turns out to be. Vampires, zombies, werewolves, Alan Arkin... if lopping the head off isn't fatal, it's at least going to make the antagonist a lot easier to get away from.


le nubian - Nov 08, 2010 6:49:45 pm PST #14703 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Alan Arkin! LOL. Was "Marly & Me" that scary?


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 08, 2010 7:07:29 pm PST #14704 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, I was thinking Wait Until Dark.

I am the guy who, after seeing some thriller about an endangered housewife with with my mom, advised her that instead of pummeling a hypothetical attacker's chest helplessly she would do well to pop his eyes with her thumbnails and then grab a fire extinguisher and hit him in the head until things stop crunching and start making squishy noises.


le nubian - Nov 09, 2010 1:52:19 am PST #14705 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm telling you, I'm running toward the buffistas houses at sign 2 that the apocalypse has started. I'm a gatherer and organizer, but not the best tactician.


Theodosia - Nov 09, 2010 2:14:23 am PST #14706 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I still think my moat strategy for self protection has a lot of virtue.