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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Daisy Jane - Nov 08, 2010 12:05:25 pm PST #14671 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

28 Days Later? Not zombies. Reanimated corpses--zombies.

My boss would love you.


Jars - Nov 08, 2010 12:05:40 pm PST #14672 of 30001

With zombies, you have to wait until they rot too badly to be able to do much in the way of lurching after you.

Yeah this is one of my issues with a lot of zombie stuff. After a month or two, most of the muscles and ligaments you need to move will have rotted away, so if you are a reanimated corpse, you're a reanimated corpse who's a pile on the ground, which is a bit less scary.

The Walking Dead comics have covered a way longer period than it would take for the zombies to fall apart, I think. I'd be happy enough if there was some handwavium about the virus preventing muscle decay or someting though; I'm pretty easy.


Allyson - Nov 08, 2010 12:15:06 pm PST #14673 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

They'd also be pooping everywhere, since what goes in must come out, or stay rotting in the stomach and eventually bursting, which is sort of like pooping but out of your belly button instead of your bum.

There's a whole lot of disbelief suspending with zombies.

I did go to a "science of zombies" panel with a neurologist, a mathematician specializing in virus outbreaks (specifically HIV), George Romero, and Max Brooks. They talked about zombie biology and how it would all work, and what the infection rate would be. Was pretty neat.


Theodosia - Nov 08, 2010 12:17:23 pm PST #14674 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

That's one of the reasons why I appreciated them spending so much time on the legless zombie in the first episode, because that clued us in that the Rules Are Different.

I suppose in the Walking Deadverse, 'zombies' are an obscure legend of Haitian voodoo lore that nobody is going to think of to label their geeks with.


Strega - Nov 08, 2010 12:32:22 pm PST #14675 of 30001

It's weird, right?

Isn't that traditional? Most of the zombie movies (and comics & books) I've seen avoid having characters use the word. At the moment the exceptions I can think of veer toward comedy.

Maybe it's because they're a modern monster... I think it's problematic for the characters to live in a world with zombie stories. It'd make everything they do or say into an evaluation of their taste in zombie media, which: barf.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2010 12:33:40 pm PST #14676 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They've been in pop culture for almost a century, though. Maybe it's being PC?


Atropa - Nov 08, 2010 12:34:46 pm PST #14677 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

28 Days Later? Not zombies. Reanimated corpses--zombies.

THANK YOU.

I did go to a "science of zombies" panel with a neurologist, a mathematician specializing in virus outbreaks (specifically HIV), George Romero, and Max Brooks. They talked about zombie biology and how it would all work, and what the infection rate would be. Was pretty neat.

I am so envious of you getting to go to that panel.


Allyson - Nov 08, 2010 12:36:16 pm PST #14678 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Isn't that traditional?

It is. It bugs me. Is this common in vampire film?

I don't think the Zombieland zombies were the dead, either. It was a virus that bloated your brain, made you mad and hungry.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2010 12:38:13 pm PST #14679 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is this common in vampire film?

You are the undead that drinks my blood...you are a...I don't know.

No, I think all the vampire movies and TV I've seen is very quick to slap that label on. Mummies get called mummies. I don't know why zombies are so special. Maybe because so few stories are actually reanimating the dead? But even those...


Atropa - Nov 08, 2010 12:42:24 pm PST #14680 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Is this common in vampire film?

Nope. Vampires get called vampires. I'm still not sure why reanimated corpses don't get called zombies more often.