Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?

'Why We Fight'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sumi - Oct 28, 2010 6:58:38 am PDT #14571 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Alan Sepinwall on what went wrong with Caprica.


Polter-Cow - Oct 28, 2010 11:45:26 am PDT #14572 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

This comment from Zach Oat made me laugh:

The creators of Smallville are going to shoot a pilot for their new Charlie's Angels TV series. If they continue the trend of there being three angels, they're going to have to learn how to write scenes with more than two people talking to each other.

I never thought about it, but seriously! Ha! Now I'm trying to think of the shows I watch and how often scenes involve more than two people talking to each other.


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2010 11:47:46 am PDT #14573 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm trying to think of the shows I watch and how often scenes involve more than two people talking to each other.

SPN, pretty often.

BSG all the time.

Lots in Eureka and W13.

Off the top of my head.


Polter-Cow - Oct 28, 2010 11:52:16 am PDT #14574 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

SPN, pretty often.

With SPN, I keep thinking of all the scenes with Sam and Dean talking to each other, but of course there are the scenes when they both talk to witnesses or monsters or whatever. I haven't watched SV in years, but I'm trying to figure out what the ratio of two-person scenes to more-than-two-person scenes is, and how much higher it is than in other shows.


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2010 11:57:19 am PDT #14575 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

of course there are the scenes when they both talk to witnesses or monsters or whatever

I just finished rewatching S1, and I was struck by all the reaction shots to two people interacting, especially towards the end of the season. Which was why it came first to mind.

When John shows up, every time he touches one brother, we get to see the other's face.

I love it.

Smallville I couldn't tell you. Haven't watched that recently either.


WindSparrow - Oct 28, 2010 9:20:31 pm PDT #14576 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Of course, thinking of shows with conversations between more than two people, Firefly comes to mind as one that was brilliant for that. Well, pretty much any Mutant Enemy thing. Wait, does Dr. Horrible count as Mutant Enemy, because that was less ensemble-y.


sumi - Oct 29, 2010 4:38:33 am PDT #14577 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

How about Mad Men? Or are we just talking genre?

Dr. Horrible had lots of monologuing. . . but I think that was the format.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 29, 2010 6:03:56 am PDT #14578 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think there's a dearth of multiple-participant conversations on TV, except perhaps Smallville (the JSA 2-parter was notable in that several people were in a room at the same time, all speaking to one another). And, of course, SGU, where people only talk to hear their own voices rather than to communicate anything to others.


le nubian - Oct 29, 2010 8:08:46 am PDT #14579 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ST:TNG's Q performing "The Raven."

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Zenkitty - Oct 29, 2010 7:23:29 pm PDT #14580 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I watched Dr. Horrible, at last. It was wonderful; I can't understand why I put off watching it for so long.