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Warehouse 13 just makes stuff up for all the historical figures they mention, afaIc, so why not Wells?
A) Because it contributes nothing to the plot
B) Because they are normally tossed off explanations of artifacts as opposed to this case where the made up stuff is a description of a continuing character.
A) Contributed pretty significantly to the time travel episode, I'd say.
B) Yeah, I don't see what difference that makes. Fast and loose is fast and loose.
I'll bet that a bunch of writers were sitting around and someone said "wouldn't it be cool if HG Wells was a woman?" and off they went.
Maybe they thought they could get Malcolm McDowell for the role originally?
A) Contributed pretty significantly to the time travel episode, I'd say.
So it would have made a difference if Helen had been using someone else's machine both in the present and back in the past rather than one she invented?
B) Yeah, I don't see what difference that makes. Fast and loose is fast and loose.
To me it makes a difference in whether the fast and loose can be moved on from vs. having the fast and loose rubbed in my face. Your fast and loose may vary.
So it would have made a difference if Helen had been using someone else's machine both in the present and back in the past rather than one she invented?
It would have made a difference to the story, sure. "Someone used my time machine" is very different from "Someone used the same time machine I used".
It boils down to, I think, there's no reason for her to be H. G. Wells except that this is the kind of show where she has to be Someone. There was an artifact fairly early on, I forget which one, that really ticked me off because the person associated with it was someone I happened to know a lot about and whatever they said about this particular artifact's history was just wrong wrongity wrong, OMG, I was very annoyed. But they (writers, producers, etc) didn't care about that person's history as much as I did, and they don't care about H. G. Wells as much as you do, and that's all there is to it. It's kind of a basic part of the show, I think.
I've been enjoying W13. Sure, the plots are fluff, but I think the relationships between the characters is pretty mature for a show of its kind. And they give good banter.
The best SFF cliffhangers. Some pretty good stuff on there.
See, I know if I fall too far behind on io9, ita will scoop me.
Cool list, although I've seen less than half of them.
IO9 is da bomb, yo.
I've seen about half, too.
Farscape, Supernatural, Buffy, Angel, Star Trek, X Files, all excellent moments. I disagree with their Fringe choice, kinda because I think the Twin Towers reveal at the end of the last season was way more WTF. But this season was a great cliffhanger too.