DW UK:

Well, I loved it. It made very little logical sense (does the Rory on the TARDIS now have a gun in his hand?), but it made great thematic and emotional/character sense. And it was just squeeful and full of great HSQ, with Amy in the Pandorica, and River having no mercy on the Dalek, and the Doctor playing such awesome games with time-travel.

And everyone who noticed about the jacketed!Doctor get to congratulate themselves for catching that!

And now we have two married companions!

Oh, and I was meh on Rory at the beginning of the season but now I'm all impressed because 2,000 years protecting your girl is some hardcore shit. And he probably knows a LOT now. Think of all the history he's lived through--the Doctor merely visits, but Rory lived through it all.

It was just great fun. And yay more River in the future! I love River.

Who finale:

I was a bit unsettled at first because the pacing was so dramatically different from the previous ep; took me a few minutes to get my bearings. Much more downbeat, but I think in the end it worked .

I read somewhere that what sets Steven Moffat apart from all the other writers is his ability to think in *four* dimensions, and I think that really showed this episode, with all the little clues dropped throughout the whole series. Just the sort of writer that Who needs, really. I've been saving my second viewing of all the episodes since the iDaleks and now I'm looking forward to them even more .

Consuela, I'm pretty sure that Rory is now human again, and that all the stuff with the Pandorica never happened. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the events of the entire season ever happened, but I expect that's something they'll clear up soon .

I also liked that a couple of major questions (who was behind the Tardis meltdown? What is the silence? Who is River?) were left open for another day. I also wonder if Rory will be a permanent companion from now on, but I expect, again, we'll find out soon .

Roll on Christmas Special!

Oh, and Matt Smith in a tuxedo? Wow. Matt Smith in a fez, not so much .

And I loved that something old, new, borrowed, blue referred to the Tardis. How are any Who fans going to keep a straight face at weddings from now on ?

UK DW: Ooh. I did love that. Unlike some of the previous finales, it both made sense and was good. I don't think there was too much handwavium, actually. A bit (like only the sonic screwdriver or Amy's DNA needed to open the un-open-able Pandorica), but the rest was actually well plotted. I liked that some of the questions weren't resolved, and that we still have some paradoxes to explore. Wheee paradoxes. Wheee River (next season for her then?) Did he answer the Doctor's question about whether she was married *to him*, do you think? And does anyone else think her time jumpy armband thingy is Jack's? I think she said recently that she met a man in a bar...

Jars, re: "So basically none of my questions got answered. And yet, I'm pretty okay with the whole thing." Well, it was a lot more satisfying than the LOST finale :P Actually, I think the answers to the questions were (almost) all in there.

And as to whether Rory still has a gun in his hand - no, I think he's human. They rebooted the universe and everything happened again, without everything that happened from Amy meeting the Doctor onwards. Which was what they were hinting at having to do all season. It was just a nice surprise that they remember. Not at all sure *why* they'd remember, but it was set up in pt 1 of the finale that they could and would.

I just have one question that I think must have been answered but I missed the answer to: Why did the TARDIS blow up?! I get that it caused every star in the universe to go supernova at once, and that it had been keeping Earth alive for the past 2000-ish years. I just missed the reason it exploded.

ETA: Fiona: I was already planning a fairly geeky wedding. I think there might have to be some TARDIS reference or other now. If The Girl lets me have one. Will start working on persuading her. Matt Smith in a tux: I know! I also liked the fez. And the various jokes around it & around how badly he dresses.

ETA again: I also loved the little references to/uses of the previous episodes. Including the fact that we were right about the Doctor returning to Amy in the Angels episode was a future Doctor. Nicely done.

Seska, Re. the exploding TARDIS, I got the impression that finding out who set it to explode and why was deliberately left a mystery for the next run, along with the whole Silence thing.

I absolutely adored River and Amy teaming up to destroy the fez. There's something about their dynamic together that I really like. I also have a suspicion that there is some connection between the two that will be revealed next season, but that's more a gut feeling than anything else.

Another thing that intrigued me was the River-Dalek confrontation, and the Dalek's reaction when it dug deeper into its data banks. She got a Dalek to beg for mercy. Damn. While I like River and how the character fits into the overall arc, I'm starting to worry a bit that Moffat is setting us up for a bigger payoff than he can deliver.

Also, my first thought upon seeing the stone Daleks was "Great. Daleks that move when you're not looking at them. THANKS, Moffat."

UK Who: I think it's significant that we didn't actually see River destroy the Dalek when it begged for mercy.

Also, I absolutely LOVED the "Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue" as a way to describe the Tardis. I mean, has that ever been mentioned before? Hard to believe it's been just sitting out there like some low-hanging fruit waiting for a writer to pluck it.

UK discussion for this week's US Who

DW UK:

"I wear a fez now. Fezzes are cool!"

LOVE.

US Who... Bill Nighy!

I agree the monster's story was given short shrift but I loved Vincent so much I didn't notice until I read the discussion. I cried when they brought him to the museum.

How many weeks behind the UK are we now?