Ilona Costa Bianchi ,'The Girl in Question'
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Not to go too wibbly, but I really like the way he walks.
He's quite bow-legged, but it suits him. And he moves really well.
Is the difference between Ten and Eleven maybe summed up in the difference between "it is defended" and "it is protected"... ?
Oh, but I didn't like the new credits. As I read somewhere, "a sort of space/time colonoscopy". Or what they've done to the theme tune. Again.
Dr. Who:
I didn't like the new credits or music AT ALL, but thankfully things improved after that.
The common theme of the Doctor leaving people behind in his wake was beautifully put front and center, as the trauma of his appearance, his promise to make the darkness go away to a young girl is an utter failure through no malice on his part, just... the fact that he couldn't handle time and space during this transformation.
I arched my eyebrow at when the nurse boyfriend mentioned having to dress up like the Doctor - I immediately thought that Eleven had imprinted himself on Amelia's awakening sexuality and was a little weirded out by that. I didn't think the doll/drawing stuff was cute, either- more psychosexually eerie. The fact that her job at the time was, basically, dressing up and selling sexual favors also seemed to track with that.
The whole setup reminded me of The Girl in the Fireplace and Madame du Pompador. But more heartbreaking. If what was said upthread about not pursuing a romantic relationship angle is true, then I am genuinely relieved, because I think for once the Companion has more Issues than the Doctor.
I'm so pleased that I don't hate Eleven! I actually like him quite a lot and am looking forward to see what happens. What was that ominous stuff about the cracks and the silence that Prisoner Zero was saying before it got zapped? I assume it's the start of this season's Bad Wolf.
bonny: I also immediately thought of Captain Awesome when we saw Jeff.
Nora: I hadn't really thought about the psychosexual aspects of the dolls and such. I agree that there's a creepiness to it. However, the objects themselves were still cute, you have to admit!
Regarding the dolls and cartoons, I think it has to have been significant that she had laid them out next to her wedding dress on the night before her wedding. Not necessarily in sexual terms, but in terms of trying to choose between 'fantasy' and a reality with Rory. It looked to me like she hadn't made her mind up when the Doctor reappeared. That said, I don't think the show was trying to push any idea of chemistry between them. I hope they don't start with that, because the platonic 'making up for broken promises' dynamic would be much more powerful. And also because Rose and Martha gave us quite enough of that.
Let me echo back Seska's last spoiler-fonty line, and also say that wrt to the Doctor's impact on Amy's sexuality, is kindda where my mind went to with the Jungian interpretations to Doctor and brides theme. If they'll hit the "once you've gone Doctor, you can never go back", I'll be very, very crossed.
Also, what's up with Black River Song? She seemed like a bad guy.
Shir, what do you mean by Black River Song?
I also thought the dolls were more creepy than cute. Making them, I can totally see, and that's not creepy. She was a kid, and probably hugely affected. It's that she kept them.
ita, I mean Alex Kingston's appearance in the "coming soon" promo, in black dress.
Oh, and also, I remember thinking, at the moment when 11 empties the glass to listen at the wall, "Wow. This guy has a great physicality about him. It was such a 'throw away' gesture that it probably didn't even register in people's minds. Subtle, but lovely.
Oh, and my favorite line of the whole shebang, which will probaby be tagged as soon as the US airing: Am I people? Do I even look like people? . The answer should be yes, but it is definitely no.
There was a car outside my building this afternoon with the vanity plate FARSCPE1. I seriously considered hanging around until the owner returned to tell them how awesome their car was.
They showed tomorrow night's Chuck at WonderCon. It is PRETTY SWEET. I look forward to the reactions.