Simon: Captain's a good fighter, he must know how to handle a sword. Zoe: I think he knows which end to hold.

'Shindig'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Feb 24, 2010 5:19:42 am PST #12135 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I thought it started out strong but lost its way pretty quickly. OTOH it's only 6 eps, so it's not a huge time investment if you do decide to watch. There was a lot about it that worked, it just needed more focus.


Vortex - Feb 24, 2010 5:33:12 am PST #12136 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

What was the final consensus with the new Prisoner -- worth watching?

I was kind of eh. It's not that I didn't like the story, it's that too many questions were unanswered at the end. They did some interesting stuff with it, though.


DebetEsse - Feb 24, 2010 7:24:13 am PST #12137 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I would say that it's not great art, but it's worth watching, for where it goes off-track as much as for where it works.


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2010 5:22:02 pm PST #12138 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dr Who will be airing in the US starting the 17th of April. Two week delay from the UK. I wonder how this will affect ratings.


le nubian - Feb 25, 2010 6:32:49 pm PST #12139 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I did not like "The Prisoner." I did not think it was worth watching. My main complaint was that I was actually bored.


megan walker - Feb 25, 2010 8:04:30 pm PST #12140 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I will now admit I started watching and quickly realized I was totally uninterested and deleted them. I ended up liking the original quite a bit, but had no patience for the remake.


Vortex - Feb 26, 2010 5:14:54 am PST #12141 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I did not like "The Prisoner." I did not think it was worth watching. My main complaint was that I was actually bored.

Had I not watched the original, I think that I would agree with you (okay, actually I was bored, too) But, I did want to see what they did with it, but quickly lost interest in how they got there. I mean, with the original Prisoner, you still don't know what the fuck was going on. With this one, you at least got a resolution, even if it was thoroughly unsatisfactory.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 26, 2010 5:30:41 am PST #12142 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I mean, with the original Prisoner, you still don't know what the fuck was going on.

I'd love to have been around when the final episode first aired. People must have been sooooo "WTF??!???!?!?" I mean, that kind of serious mindfuckery was not the kind of thing that turned up on television back then. Even post-Twin Peaks it's still pretty rare, but not unprecedented.


le nubian - Feb 26, 2010 5:36:42 am PST #12143 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

But don't you think every generation has its own WTF? When the original aired, there were all kinds of weird psychedelic stuff going on in pop culture - sometimes a scene, sometimes more.

For example, in "Point Blank" with Lee Marvin (same year as "The Prisoner"), there were a couple of weird ass scenes where he went to a club and they just took 10 minutes out to play music, have go-go dancing and just set a mood. It took me right out of the movie, but I find that pop culture in the 60s had these random aspects of weird.

After "Twilight Zone", I suppose anything was possible.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 26, 2010 5:44:20 am PST #12144 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah, I always forget about the Twilight Zone (and the Outer Limits for that matter), which is odd, because I'm a big fan. The weirdness of The Prisoner still seems way out there, though. I think it was the absolute refusal to resolve anything in a way that made sense that did it for me.