Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.

'Origin'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Polter-Cow - Feb 05, 2010 10:10:52 am PST #12027 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I noticed the misspelled name, but I wasn't certain afterward that we'd been seeing the AU, but I think it was. Because that's where they would have been feeling the tremors. It's a perspective issue: we assumed we started out in the real world, and Prez got Alt-Prez smashed into him. But what actually happened was that we started out in the AU, and Alt-Prez smashed into Prez.

I...oh goddammit, wait, DUH. That explains why he was working on the NEW PENTAGON. Because the Pentagon was destroyed in the AU 9/11. Along with the White House, which I think we saw in other newspaper.


Connie Neil - Feb 05, 2010 10:25:12 am PST #12028 of 30001
brillig

I"m not used to having to pay so much attention to the props. Darn thinky shows.


DCJensen - Feb 05, 2010 11:11:27 am PST #12029 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Interesting reveal in the conversation at the beginning of the episode:

"Wait a second! Is that.. that real coffee? Where did you get that?"

"I don't know... I have my sources. I have a cousin in Hawaii with a secret stash. She sends me some..."


DCJensen - Feb 05, 2010 11:14:56 am PST #12030 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Also? before and after shots of the building are striking.


Polter-Cow - Feb 05, 2010 11:19:19 am PST #12031 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"Wait a second! Is that.. that real coffee? Where did you get that?"

And that line makes more sense now! Yeah. I need to rewatch that scene.


DCJensen - Feb 05, 2010 11:28:52 am PST #12032 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I think Walter forgets about Peter's otherness in the heat of the challenge. And? Mind more Swiss cheesy than Sam Beckett's.


DCJensen - Feb 05, 2010 11:32:56 am PST #12033 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Also? Only two nondescript yellow taxi's in the exterior shot of the Manhatan building.

I also noticed that they have prominent hand sanitizing stations in the office, and it's used without a second thought. They also have global warming.

The coffee gives us a clue, but not a good one. Id the lack of coffee political, social or due to changing climate?

The other side seems to be ahead of us in technology, but not in years. (CD player in 1986, double-decker cars, etc)


Connie Neil - Feb 05, 2010 12:09:29 pm PST #12034 of 30001
brillig

I like how they expect us to keep up. Everything makes so much more sense knowing it was the other world.


Liese S. - Feb 05, 2010 1:14:04 pm PST #12035 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay, I totally don't watch this show, but I had to laugh because I have a cousin in Hawaii who sends me coffee.

(eta: Does this mean I live in an AU? And does it have Pacey? Because I might be okay with that.)


§ ita § - Feb 05, 2010 1:19:22 pm PST #12036 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, as someone who considers real coffee the stuff she gets sent from Jamaica, that line went right over my head.

"Oh, Pacey! You blind idiot. Can't you see she doesn' t love you?"

Sorry. That line still comes to mind even now.