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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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§ ita § - Mar 21, 2008 8:39:03 am PDT #1192 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But Trudy, Nicky would never have settled for that. It'd have taken what she got or a corpse to stop her looking. I don't think there's a preparation that could brace a mother for that sort of thing.

However, as far as Gwen goes, I don't see why Jack couldn't have headed her off with the truth. When she goes charging in bullheaded how is that going to make things better? Because she will get to what she's looking for. That's why she's there.


Trudy Booth - Mar 21, 2008 8:59:23 am PDT #1193 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I don't think that's necessarily true about Nicky. People get horribly injured and have to live in care facilities. She clearly did not know from the start that he could never come home. If she insists she MUST know, give her a very edited tape of his "bad times" so she has a picture of what goes wrong but not the full mind-blowing experience. Prepare Nicky for the parts she could deal with and continue to hide the rest.

Its worth finding a controlled way for family members to see each other if only so the vicitms know that they made it home and their families still love them. If it was just the families, tell them "dead in a fire" so they can move on with their lives.

As far as Gwen, Jack didn't head her off with the truth because he's more than a little self righteous. He wanted to be absoluetly correct and assert his authority. The whole thing put Gwen in her place.

Its not that I think Jack is evil and manipulaitve, I think he lacks people skills to the point where he'll opt to be supreme boss in situations where it's emotionally charged rather than strictly necessary for safety or something.


sumi - Mar 21, 2008 9:29:48 am PDT #1194 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

The Hollywood Reporter says that's it for Jericho.


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2008 9:38:46 am PDT #1195 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that some loved ones could have been headed off with ample preparation, etc, just not Nicky. She's been scanning crowd videos for months. She was willing to pretend he was her father. I think she would have pressed it until somehow she knew.

But, of course, Gwen couldn't have even tried, because she didn't know, because Jack let her charge in, instead of preparing her.

As for cruelty--someone mentioned in Dana's LJ that Jack's "wanna join in?" invitation was pretty cruel, and it was, even if you don't count the strange attraction they've been portraying between Jack and Gwen. It was just strangely dismissive of everything about her--she has something she thinks is important, and of any feelings they may have acknowledged last episode to any degree.


Polter-Cow - Mar 21, 2008 10:08:56 am PDT #1196 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The Hollywood Reporter says that's it for Jericho.

Aw. Sorry, Jericho fans. At least it sounds like it's going out at the top of its game.


Trudy Booth - Mar 21, 2008 10:42:44 am PDT #1197 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

As for cruelty --someone mentioned in Dana's LJ that Jack's "wanna join in?" invitation was pretty cruel, and it was, even if you don't count the strange attraction they've been portraying between Jack and Gwen.

Oh ABSOLUTELY.

Did you catch that Jack went back in the room, Ianto spoke to Gwen for two or three seconds, and by the time Ianto walked back into the room Jack was already undressed? I found this fairly cold.


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2008 10:44:22 am PDT #1198 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Very cold indeed.


Glamcookie - Mar 21, 2008 10:47:03 am PDT #1199 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

BSG top 10 was adorable. Having the entire cast there was a waste for that audience, though. I didn't hear much applause, and you know if it were a con type audience, they would have gone nuts. I was thinking I wish I was there!!!


sumi - Mar 21, 2008 10:47:59 am PDT #1200 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

They actually filmed it the day before - so there wasn't a live audience.


Glamcookie - Mar 21, 2008 10:55:27 am PDT #1201 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Okay, that makes more sense. I was like, is there not a single BSG fan in the crowd??