A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2010 2:59:01 pm PST #11855 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

do you have arachnophobia? if so, do not watch this episode. at all. seriously. I think it would give you nightmares.


Laga - Jan 17, 2010 3:32:00 pm PST #11856 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

If however, you enjoy seeing actors you recognize from Pirates of the Caribbean in animalistic monster suits, "Demons" is the way to go.

I can't decide if the show's getting better or my standards are getting lower. It was nice to see the friend develop some agency even if she was totally useless for most of the episode.


Typo Boy - Jan 17, 2010 3:36:15 pm PST #11857 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah seconding Le Nubian. I suspect that this (the current Sanctuary) would be worse than many spider based horror movies for arachnophobes.

Now that they have made Kali an actual character in their show, will they have actual zombie Jesus? Or is this not a fair comparison? Hinduism is a living religion. I wonder how actual believing, observant Hindus would feel about this.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2010 3:39:46 pm PST #11858 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can someone explain to me how they tied the religion to the abnormal? I glazed over that bit.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 17, 2010 4:09:29 pm PST #11859 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The Cult of Kali has apparently had members serving as her heralds via the linked little(r) spiders for thousands of years.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2010 4:17:22 pm PST #11860 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

God talking via abnormals. Hmm. And the tie to Big Bertha?


beekaytee - Jan 17, 2010 5:21:30 pm PST #11861 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I took the connection to be that BB is the physical manifestation of the goddess. Why the goddess would allow herself to be controlled/influenced by a human via an extension entity was a bit vague to me.


Typo Boy - Jan 17, 2010 5:30:29 pm PST #11862 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Umm I took it that Big Bertha IS Kali. That is: Big Bertha is a giant undersea intelligent immortal spider with ultra-powerful telekinetic powers to cause earthquakes and destroy continents. The small Macrea(SP) spider allows "Heralds" working for the cult of Kali to communicate with the big spider and warn when earthquakes and other disasters are coming, and maybe sometimes talk the big spider out of (or maybe into) causing these disasters. The giant spider in dream talking to Heralds takes the dream form of a seductively beautiful human shaped goddess - at least in the minds of Heralds.

The show leaves room to interpret this as the Giant Spider being an avatar of the true Kali, but that is not the way I read it, and at some point maybe I'll give the arguments for it.

Incidentally, a friend asked what Sanctuary was about and I reduced her to helpless laughter just by first describing what the sanctuary network was, then who the major characters were, then the plot of this episode 100% straight. No humorous spin needed. Try it yourself.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2010 8:45:51 pm PST #11863 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The Bollywood part would probably send everyone to the laughter house.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 18, 2010 5:59:13 am PST #11864 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think "And the butler is Bigfoot!" is about all you need to say to reduce a non-watcher to hysterics, actually.