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Vampirism as or being a werewolf (or even zombie) as a disease are not new
The traditional view of vampirism in mythology has been something transmissible, sure, but it's also often walked hand in hand with magic and other weird beasties. Hemophages? That seems a more recent angle.
Zombies, if my facts are stable, have their roots in voudoun, which is all mystical/religion. It's something that's done to you. Zombies transmitting their zombification to you, and being started from some mysterious other source came after that as far as I can tell.
Honestly? They did for me, too, mostly because Angel and Spike were clearly the exceptions, not the rule. Whereas "Twilight" baffles me, it's so far afield.
And it's so far afield because Meyer had no concept of the mythology because she had no interest in it prior to writing her little dream that could. She chose vampires because of what little she knew via popular culture, it was a convenient method by which to convey the forbidden love aspect of the story she wanted to tell. Beyond that, by her own admission, not only did she not know nothing, she had and continues to have no interest in knowing anything about the mythology.
Which, I suppose can be both good and bad. Good, in that she has no preconceived notions, but bad, in that what little she has managed to take in, in the last few years, has resulted in responses ranging from "yuck" to "creepy" and no, I'm not making that up. [link]
In 2007, as Twilight propelled her from a surprise YA best-seller to a multigenerational superstar, she admitted to EW that she had never read Bram Stoker's Dracula. Reading other people's vampire stories made her too ''neurotic,'' she explained. As a Mormon, Meyer doesn't watch R-rated movies, so that eliminated a whole other swatch of the canon. (She has seen bits of Interview With the Vampire and The Lost Boys on late-night TV. Her respective reviews: ''Yuck!'' and ''Creepy!'')
Therefore, to me, at least, she comes across as incredibly dismissive of everything within the genre that's not hers.
My impression is that silver is a fairly common weakness, although that weakness takes different forms. In True Blood, one can pin a vampire to the ground simply by draping silver chains across limbs. The fact that silver burns is pretty widespread trope (Angel, True Blood, Being Human?)
Hmm. Now I want to go home and reread my giant Vampire encyclopedia thingy.
Therefore, to me, at least, she comes across as incredibly dismissive of everything within the genre that's not hers.
Well, a lot of people fond of the genre are incredibly dismissive of her works, so I guess that balances out.
The fact that silver burns is pretty widespread trope (Angel, True Blood, Being Human?)
I don't think it's the silver itself that burns in the Jossverse, does it? Or Spike's wearing a lot of non-silver rings.
Barbara Hambly's vampires are vulnerable to the silver itself. There are interesting scenes where the heroes are figuring out the best way to drape as much silver on themselves as they can without looking too weird in public.
I don't think we've seen any indication in the Jossverse that silver burns--I only recall burns from crosses specifically.
Angel's claddagh ring would be fake silver too, in that case.
a lot of people fond of the genre are incredibly dismissive of her works, so I guess that balances out.
Balances out, cause and effect, six of one, half a dozen of the other...
I think silver was only mentioned in the Jossverse in terms of werewolves, not vampires. Doesn't Buffy stab Oz with a letter opener at one point before she knows it is Oz and then wonders if it is real silver.
I don't think it's the silver itself that burns in the Jossverse, does it?
In first season Buffy, Angel gets a cross burned into his chest from embracing Buffy. Also, there was craxy Spike draped over a silver cross and smoking. Perhaps his rings are pewter?
eta or maybe they just weren't consistent. Didn't Angel have a silver claddagh ring?
In first season Buffy, Angel gets a cross burned into his chest from embracing Buffy. Also, there was craxy Spike draped over a silver cross and smoking. Perhaps his rings are pewter?
I'm pretty sure in both cases that it was the cross-ness and not the silver-ness causing the burns.
I thought that it was the cross that made the smoke, not the silver. And the craxy spike was on a wooden or stone one, I thought?
