Buffy: Where are the burgers? Riley: Yeah man, I'm starving. Cow me. Xander: I'd love to make with the moo but the fire's not cooperating.

'Lessons'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


beekaytee - Dec 26, 2009 10:43:23 am PST #11381 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Random question, as I have had SG-1 playing in the background over the holiday...In the 1st and 2nd season, the Zat is described as sort of a three strikes device. 1) hurty 2) killy 3) disintigratey.

I don't remember seeing it used to hide bodies like that in later seasons. Was the shift ever explained or was that feature eventually just ignored?

The 'dusting' function seemed very Buffy.


beekaytee - Dec 26, 2009 10:46:32 am PST #11382 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Yep Shir, I agree that the brokenness was usually about someone else...though the loss of Rose could be construed as self-interested.

Your first sentence there pinged me as possibly offended by my response. I sincerely hope that is not the case. My intention could not be further from that. Just friendly bantering, you know?


Shir - Dec 26, 2009 11:07:33 am PST #11383 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh no, bonny. I certainly wasn't offend, and I hope it's the same at your end. I was just pointing out that I think that we are looking for different things when we're "consuming" Who, and that's why we differ.


DCJensen - Dec 26, 2009 11:59:37 am PST #11384 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

EoT

As for the plot device of the medical thingy. I think it was meant to be a healing device for a whole planet as described, but the Master re-wrote the code to make it copy his matrix directly.

Speaking of which, I wonder if all of the six billion copies of The master have the same superpowers? I guess we find out Friday.


WindSparrow - Dec 26, 2009 12:08:15 pm PST #11385 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Huh, well wouldn't that be something? six billion crazy mad bad Masters. They could climb onto one anothers' shoulders, and simultaneously jump, and a few of them might make it to the moon. Dunno what they would do when they got there, but it would be fun to watch.


Tom Scola - Dec 26, 2009 12:09:18 pm PST #11386 of 30001
hwæt

Skipping all the whitefont to ask, anyone up for a watch-and-post at 6:00 board time?


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 26, 2009 12:11:20 pm PST #11387 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Shir, regarding what you said about Doctor Who and not watching just for plot. Well, no, I don't watch just for plot. But I do expect there to be some plot. Ideally without gaping holes. There was NO explanation of who the father and daughter were, nor why the hell the father wanted the daughter to become immortal. And what was with RTD building a mythology from nowhere? 'The Book of Saxon': excuse me?? There are decades of Doctor Who mythology to draw on, especially if you're about to bring back Time Lords. I haven't seen all of the original series, but I'm fairly sure the Book of Saxon won't have featured in it, nor his disciples. Messianic imagery only works if it stays metaphorical (and a bit of foreshadowing helps too. Any bit).

Essentially, the whole thing felt overblown and needless, with any necessary stuff - whether plot, decent writing or characters I actually care about - sidelined in an extended excuse for bringing back the Time Lords. If that's all proven to be worthwhile next episode, then I can pretend this one didn't happen. While I agree with you about the good stuff, particularly with Tennant, there was too little of that to redeem it, for me.


quester - Dec 26, 2009 1:30:54 pm PST #11388 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Tom, if you mean when it is broadcast on BBCA today, then Hells, Yeah! I'll be here!


beekaytee - Dec 26, 2009 1:58:49 pm PST #11389 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I might not have much to say, but if you give me a countdown as you get going and I'll fire up my copy. Could get dodgy with commercials, but I'd be really interested in reading what you have to say.


Stephanie - Dec 26, 2009 2:01:40 pm PST #11390 of 30001
Trust my rage

I was going to wait for the BBCA airing, but anticipation got the best of me. So, I get what people are unhappy about. There was a lot of jumping aroun and way too much watching the Master eat meat. Still, I loved Wilf traveling with the Doctor and I loved seeing Donna again. Wilf and the Doctor in the pub was LOVE and I have to admit that the fic-reader in me loved the scene where the Doctor finally hear the Master's drums.

Okay, family is here, must be social.