A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Of course, I'll most probably be at a relatives' house that does not receive BBCA. Such is the cruelty of the wintry holidays.
It's due to air on the BBC in the UK on the 25th (pt 1) and 26th (pt 2). So both eps should be ahemable well before January. If that helps at all!
I'm concerned because my mother wants to serve dinner at 5pm on Christmas Day, and Doctor Who is on at 6. We may end up watching it on the BBC iPlayer back at the hotel at some ridiculous hour of the night on Christmas Day. The hotel had better have wireless internet.
Two words, Seska: dial and up. This is the Catskills house where they can only use satellite TV because cables don't go up their road....
Hmm. My dad lives in place like that in Deepest Darkest Hampshire, but he lives there permanently, so he got bored and got satellite broadband. How long are you there for, Theodosia?
FFS, he has The Moffat at his side, people. The Moffat. This guy can write some shit that leaves me at the edge of the seat, heartbroken, craving and begging for more. I thought I'll never get used to Tennant after Eccleston, and the former became my favorite Doctor after 20 minutes on the screen.
Indeed. The "Blink" and "Empty Child" episodes of "DW," the "Lesbian Spank Inferno" episode of "Coupling," and the entire "Jekyll" miniseries ... the man has done some of my all-time favorite television, so he gets a benefit of the doubt. Hell, he gets the benefit of several doubts.
Not that they could without ending the show, but if he knows he's just going to pop up somewhere with a new body and some different personality quirks but the same memories and basically the same person, what is really the big deal about "dying"?
I think it's fundamentally a mistake to minimize the effect the regenerations have on him. Even if he's never really expressed, one way or the other, how he feels about them or how they effect him, they're not something he does lightly. I think, in a very real way, that might be a lot like dying, every time.
Twelve regenerations. Thirteen incarnations.
Indeed, but the Master beat that.
Consider that his past incarnations have tended to view and refer to each other as if they were different people, some of whom did not get along. There are some pretty fundamental changes going on inside, and I think any given stage of the Doctor's life would regard the regenerarion as an end of sorts to himself.
Also, we know that Matt Smith is waiting in the wings, but he doesn't know for sure that he'll regenerate - I think for whatever reason he's thinking the next one might be permanent. "Your song is ending" is pretty ominous and when the Ood appeared to him in the snow he seemed to believe that it was all over for good.
I personally tend to think that he's so upset this time, because he knows it's coming (Unlike in Parting of the Ways) and he's now the very last Time Lord. It's like those horrible situations that have happened (and still unfortunately happen) when there's just one 80 year old person left who speaks a language and it will die with them. Gallifrey still lives on in him because he carries its memory - but when he goes, it's kaput.
It's due to air on the BBC in the UK on the 25th (pt 1) and 26th (pt 2).
Actually, it's on BBC1 from 6 to 7 pm on Friday 25th December, and from 6:40 to 7:55 pm on Friday 1st January. Each followed by one hour of Confidential on BBCTHREE.
Do we know if the BBCA version will be the same as the BBC1?
David Tennant can convey more with his face that most actors can with the most eloquent oratory.
Indeed. That was excruciating to watch and listen to.
I am continually impressed by Doctor Who's ability to make totally mundane things freaky as hell. Children, stone angels, now water...
Gallifrey still lives on in him because he carries its memory - but when he goes, it's kaput.
Plus, even if he is having decades' worth of adventures off-screen, he is still blowing through regenerations like a kid with a fist full of nickles in a penny arcade. Most Time Lords got to their regenerations through old age of bodies, not through adventures or misadventures.
