American society was always less stratified than British and as I understand it, an urban household might have both slaves and hired girls. The whole duel thing was ridiculous, though. A gentleman wouldn't accept a duel from a servant and it's pretty unlikely that it would ever occur to a servant.
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Ginger - Mar 18, 2008 1:03:10 pm PDT #1125 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2008 1:13:03 pm PDT #1126 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The storyline smacked of...well, I just felt someone should have gotten the shit beat out of them before it reached the end it did. I can't work out if it's because I'm used to seeing those households with slaves or the more solidified British strata where the lines were nice and tidy.
There was a lot of wiggle room here.
Vortex - Mar 18, 2008 1:14:42 pm PDT #1127 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Is it possible that a coachman was a different kind of servant? sort of a hybrid?
Also, I thought that maybe the reason why he accepted the duel is that Amsterdam did it in front of a bunch of people, so that he couldn't back down.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2008 1:19:57 pm PDT #1128 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I thought that maybe the reason why he accepted the duel is that Amsterdam did it in front of a bunch of people, so that he couldn't back down.
If it's a broaching of the class lines I'd think he was less held to it, rather than more. They seemed way too on par with each other, somehow.
I swear there was a Bones ad during this showing, and seeing DB's face in the middle of the "cursed but for true love" show messed with my head.
Ginger - Mar 18, 2008 1:22:44 pm PDT #1129 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Black slaves were frequently coachmen in the North. I don't know of coachmen and grooms having any special status.
Vortex - Mar 18, 2008 1:23:09 pm PDT #1130 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
If it's a broaching of the class lines I'd think he was less held to it, rather than more.
true. I thought that it was more that he was an arrogant prick, and he was provoked into accepting, so his pride wouldn't let him back down (which is why he said "I'm prepared to accept your apology" in an attempt to get out of it)
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2008 1:45:45 pm PDT #1131 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
"I'm prepared to accept your apology"
Shows what a lousy uppercrustian he was. Apology? From the help?
I just saw that Arthur C Clarke has died. In my head, he's more like...well, not ascended, but drifted on upwards.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 18, 2008 2:01:58 pm PDT #1132 of 30001
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A gentleman wouldn't accept a duel from a servant and it's pretty unlikely that it would ever occur to a servant.
John probably hadn't exclusively been a servant before that, so I can see it occurring to him. His employer accepting, NSM.
quester - Mar 18, 2008 5:42:24 pm PDT #1133 of 30001
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I just saw that Arthur C Clarke has died. In my head, he's more like...well, not ascended, but drifted on upwards.
I like that thought, ita, very appropriate!
Juliebird - Mar 18, 2008 6:01:38 pm PDT #1134 of 30001
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Jericho was again completely engaging.
When exactly did this happen?
(Granted I quit watching about four or five eps into the first season and only just started watching the past three or four latest of the second season).