Sir? I'd like you to take the helm, please. I need this man to tear all my clothes off.

Zoe ,'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tommyrot - Nov 03, 2009 5:16:47 pm PST #10627 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Heh.

OK, I never watched the original V. In that one, were there sleeper visitors? Because with this show, we don't need to learn a little bit of the Visitors' plan at a time; we have Visitors on our side who can just tell us everything right away. Which is maybe not so good for a series.


JenP - Nov 03, 2009 5:22:22 pm PST #10628 of 30001

I was trying to remember, tommyrot. I don't think there were Visitors here first in the original, but someone else (Vortex, Bonnie?) might remember better.


bennett - Nov 03, 2009 6:02:44 pm PST #10629 of 30001

Nope, no Visitors already here in the original. And no undercover Visitors - at least in the miniseries. I don't recall the series. The Visitors had an underlying rumble to their voices that would've made them easy to spot.

And in the original it took a couple of hours to discover that the Visitors were Not What They Seemed - at the end of the first 2 hours, I think. The beginning, at least, of the new version is moving along faster.


beekaytee - Nov 03, 2009 6:44:59 pm PST #10630 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

bennett gets it in one. There was nothing undercover about the original V except for, you know, what was under their 'covers.' (and by that, I do not mean porn)

The reveal took awhile and was pretty cool when it happened. They were different but we didn't know just how right away.


Polter-Cow - Nov 03, 2009 7:37:40 pm PST #10631 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I really liked it! I have the original sitting on my DVR, but I like the sleeper cell idea, especially the part where part of their plan was to make the world start sucking in the first place.


tommyrot - Nov 03, 2009 7:43:29 pm PST #10632 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

especially the part where part of their plan was to make the world start sucking in the first place.

Huh. Not me. I was thinking along the lines of, "Us humans are perfectly capable of royally fucking things up ourselves, thankyouverymuch."


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2009 7:50:48 pm PST #10633 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm with tommy. It felt like shirking our responsibility.

I need to watch Firefly again. I'm finding it hard to believe in an unmenacing Tudyk, even though Alpha and this character were revealed over time.

What has Morris Chestnut been doing with his time since Boyz In The Hood? B movies? God, he's pretty. And he moved so well in that action scene.

I can't take Scott Wolf seriously. What is he? 4'10? Has his voice broken yet?


Polter-Cow - Nov 03, 2009 7:50:48 pm PST #10634 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I was thinking along the lines of, "Us humans are perfectly capable of royally fucking things up ourselves, thankyouverymuch."

Oh, we totally are. But I like plans.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2009 7:54:19 pm PST #10635 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh I like this coding of the threads and its avoidance of duplicate post numbers so much better.

No, I really didn't like the "they are fucking us up" angle. We are fucking us up. We really are.

But they beat the Cylons in the planning department.


Juliebird - Nov 03, 2009 8:57:10 pm PST #10636 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Finished Defying Gravity, wah!

Maybe because I basically marathoned it (is that the same thing as mainlining?), but I didn't really miss any smaller beats in the story. Or maybe because they never really said where they were going with the show, so I had nothing to do but enjoy the little mundanities and intricacies of the relationships. Unlike, say, Carnivale, where it was all supposedly "The Kurgan and Chuck Norstadt do epic battle over the fate of the world!" but really it was a whole lot of meandering side stories. I was so relieved when it was cancelled, because it felt like Anne Rice's vampires that NEVER FUCKING DIED and the pain, misery, and torture would go on for centuries and books and centuries and books and books.

I have insomnia, a cold, and drugs.