Mal: I call you back? Wash: No, Mal. You didn't. Zoe: I take full responsibility, cap.

'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


beekaytee - Sep 19, 2009 4:33:33 pm PDT #10034 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

le n, if I were the psychologist, I'd suggest that Jen might be connected to one of the other entities.

I agree that the core of the story ought to have come much earlier in the plot unfolding. In a way, it feels like a whole different show now. Perhaps that is purposeful. Put the viewers as off their footing as the crew members .


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2009 6:04:04 pm PDT #10035 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think that two of the crew can't see Beta--Wass knew it was fractal right away. I think it's just Jen that can't see it.

I'm glad this didn't happen very early on. If it had they'd have had to tell it very differently to keep my interest--I found the first half of this episode very boring. It's not great sci fi. I'm there because I like Ron Livingston and Malik Yoba and some of the other actors.


le nubian - Sep 19, 2009 6:13:30 pm PDT #10036 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yes, sorry. I meant that 2 didn't get hallucinations.

this show is barely hanging on to my interest now. If this showed during the regular tv season, I wouldn't have made it past the pilot, I don't think.


evil jimi - Sep 19, 2009 6:27:43 pm PDT #10037 of 30001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

(notice that the first victim was watching XF?)

Yep but did you also pick up the second XF reference. When Broyles was facing the senate hearing, the agro Senator actually referenced the X-files as being "real" when he said, "the old X designation" .

I hate what they did to Charlie. I really liked the character. Unfortunately, the way they handled it was also stupid and clumsy, with plot holes you could fly the Enterprise through. There's no way the soldier could've transformed into Charlie in the time alloted. "He" needed to strip Charlie, then divest himself of the nurse's uniform. He then had to redress in Charlie's clothes, and then redress the nurse in her clothes, before hiding Charlie's body .

I won't even mention the forensics and bullets.

Unless there is a second soldier who killed the first one and took over Charlie's body. Although that still has a fair-sized plot hole.


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2009 7:34:14 pm PDT #10038 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You don't need to white font, jimi. It's aired in the US.


Jon B. - Sep 22, 2009 11:33:42 am PDT #10039 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

last year, Harvard was offering nearly full rides to people who were low-income and lower-middle class. This is not happening post-October 2008 crash, but they were doing this before then.

Getting back to this (re: Zoe on Eureka), Harvard is still offering those generous financial aid packages. Post-crash, they've been doing their budget cutting elsewhere: [link]


le nubian - Sep 22, 2009 2:37:13 pm PDT #10040 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

well, good to know! I heard they were limiting these...


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2009 5:30:06 pm PDT #10041 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, that was a tight hole Warehouse 13 just wrote itself into. Could they really have killed Artie? And I'm disappointed that Leena was a traitor--primarily because I didn't think she was well enough drawn for me to care. She was just an airy fairy mumbo jumbo good guy. The others were much more real.


Kristen - Sep 22, 2009 6:21:44 pm PDT #10042 of 30001

He had his hand in his pocket right before it blew. I'm betting he had the Phoenix or some other artifact.

And hey! At least, Leena finally had something to do.


quester - Sep 22, 2009 6:39:27 pm PDT #10043 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I'm with you, Kristen. I immediately thought of the Phoenix!